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Largest city

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Strategy & Tips' started by firecat318, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. firecat318

    firecat318 Warlord

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    I don't know if this has been posted yet, but I have figured out what the absolute largest city possible is.



    I know it's done growing because there are no pink tiles on the borders anymore. It appears to be 5 tiles from the center of the city in every direction is the largest a city can get. Obviously, after three tiles you have to rely on cultural growth - (My city had Ankor Wat [75% more border growth] and about 170 culture.)
     
  2. guspasho

    guspasho Prince

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    I've gotten far more than 16 pop before, I also read an OCC guide where the author managed to finish the game with 36 pop in his city.

    Also, Ankor (?) Wat technically gives you 300% more border growth, because the culture cost of tiles is reduced by 75%, so that's 1/4 normal cost, meaning 4x growth, equivalent to +300%. Not to get technical or anything. :mischief:
     
  3. Ozle

    Ozle Chieftain

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    He is talking about border size rather thanpopulation I believe.

    I thought I had more than this once though when I had Ghandi and only two cities, but it wasnt evenly spread out, so maybe its just 97 squares. And yours have spread evenly because of the water., or because i had other cities blocking the way.


    *Edit* Just reloaded my save game and it looks like mine dont go for more than 5 in any one direction either.
     
  4. firecat318

    firecat318 Warlord

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    I know I could get more population, but I had the thing focused for production. I'm talking about actual city land area.
     
  5. Zenstrive

    Zenstrive Ocean King

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    This will make you appreciate maritime city states more. And oh, water tiles and lighthouse :)
     
  6. evanbgood

    evanbgood Chieftain

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    Hmm... that's kind of pretty, somehow. I'd be interested in the highest population anyone's ever gotten, as well.
     
  7. aimlessgun

    aimlessgun King

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    Good lord that is huge. How much of those did you have to buy?
     
  8. aguds

    aguds Warlord

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    Nice!
     
  9. firecat318

    firecat318 Warlord

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    I didn't buy any tiles. The city was generating 200 culture by itself plus I had the Ankor Wat for easy expansion.
     
  10. Nunya

    Nunya Warlord

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    Yes, 5 hexes is the maximum radious to which a city's borders can grow. It says so in the globalDefines.xml file:

    <Row Name="MAXIMUM_BUY_PLOT_DISTANCE">
    <Value>3</Value>
    </Row>
    <Row Name="MAXIMUM_ACQUIRE_PLOT_DISTANCE">
    <Value>5</Value>
    </Row>

    Playing as India I got one city to size 31 and it was still growing.
     
  11. Roxlimn

    Roxlimn Deity

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    I got one to size 35 and it was still growing. With the excess food, it could have hit 40, easy.
     
  12. Nunya

    Nunya Warlord

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    Theoretical maximum size should be easy enough to determine. The maximum yield from a tile is 5. Assuming all tiles the city can work yield 5 food and the city tile itself yields 3 the city will produce (6+12+18)*5+3=183 food. Granary + Watermill add 4 for 187. 10 of the possible city states are maritime so they can add another 70 for 257. That's enough to feed 128 population. Siam would get 100 from city states so that's 287 food -> 143 population. Aztec would get 15% bonus on food production so 295 food -> 147 population.

    A more realistic scenario is 4 yield per tile, 6 from city center and buildings. That would generate 150 food and 75 population. Note however, that the game would probably end much sooner than the city would reach that size.
     
  13. surb

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    Don't forget the policy that means specialists only consume 1 food, that would increase the maximum...
     
  14. Rathelon

    Rathelon Prince

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    Heh, somebody post a screenie of a city with 100 population. I'd like to see that.
     
  15. bluedevil99

    bluedevil99 Warlord

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    Can that city actually work a tile 5 hexes horizontally or vertically away? I was pretty sure my cities couldn't work a tile more than 3 hexes in a straight line away. Heck I didn't know you could *buy* tiles that far out, and have ended up placing useless cities to grab oil and aluminum that were just outside my large cities' borders. At least for me it seems like you can't buy tiles too far away from your city's current cultural borders regardless of how much gold you have. Can anyone confirm?
     
  16. Horserush

    Horserush Warlord

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    You can't buy tiles that are more than 3 out, but the city will acquire them through culture. Also, you can work any tile within your border, but anything more than 3 tiles away from your city won't have the yield added to that city. So you can work lux and strategic resources and get them added to your empire total, but the tile yield will not be added to the city.

    edit: clarity
     
  17. Bex

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    Resurrecting the thread because it seems like the right home for this. 104.
    max# city states
    prince level
    legendary start option
     

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  18. vibe96

    vibe96 Warlord

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    1300 :c5science:, 31000 :c5gold:, 120 :c5happy:, and 52 coal??? :huh:
     
  19. strijder20

    strijder20 Wallowing in irony

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    What the...
    And it looks more like 184 to me, am I seeing it wrong?


    What's so special about that? As you can see, Bex fully completed five policy trees, and I think Patronage is one of them - giving extra science per city state. All those city states likely have a lot of resources (legendary start) including coal, and they are giving it to him.
    The gold is strange, I must admit that - OTOH, at the rate he is gaining gold atm, he could have gotten it in only 100 turns.
     
  20. Gough Whitlam

    Gough Whitlam Chieftain

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    I'm fairly sure that the maximum is 200 population for a city and 5 tiles away in every direction. Someone posted a thread in which they tried to max out population by playing Aztecs with a custom map with rivers and grassland with farms everywhere and lake in the city boundaries.
     

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