Le Deuxieme Amendment

[Borachio]

Is it? I hadn't noticed. What do you have in mind? Apart from Richard (Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer) son of York.

 

[Farm Boy]

Iono, unless I randomly click bad links this took less than 10 seconds to find and seems to come from an article less than 3 months old.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...re-site-Staffordshire-Haul.html#axzz2KhioiBqQ

 

[Chiteng]

First off, apogolies to any French speaking persons. Next:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Now I become president of the United States. Apart from being the most pleasant smelling president in history, I also am the most tyrannical. But since je suis Jeuropien, that really goes without saying. Anyspace,

My first executive order is banning anything else beside <gunmanufactor name> 9 mm caliber handheld guns. But the thing is, I remove any restrictions. Ex-con? Here's your gun Sir. Mental? Would you like it giftwrapped?

As I see it, people can bear arms all over the place and I'm not infringing anything with regard to the bearing of the arms. the thing says: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." not "the right of the people to keep and bear any kind of arms they like shall not be infringed."

So, would this please all those who have der Zweite Änderung tattooed on their heart and would they love me as their president?

Well if your giving things away Ziggy I could use a .50 cal w a good scope.
My eyesight has deteriorated with age.

 

[Cutlass]

 

[Leoreth]

So, to draw a ridiculous analogy, there'd be no point in allowing people to arm themselves with spears in defence of the state, if the tech tree has advanced to the point of nuclear weapons.

But the US government already uses nuclear weapons. So the "people have to be able to fight their government" logic behind the second amendment is either outdated and should therefore be rejected or we should allow everyone the constitutional right to own an ICBM.

The Constitution's "arms" were muskets, swords, and canons. Perhaps that should suffice?

You forgot horses and bayonets.

Richard III please. Hardly some random guy.

Distinguished by being an awful monarch even by English standards.

 

[Flying Pig]

But the US government already uses nuclear weapons. So the "people have to be able to fight their government" logic behind the second amendment is either outdated and should therefore be rejected or we should allow everyone the constitutional right to own an ICBM.

If you can get it, you can keep it.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

First, can we have .40 caliber please:
1) This is the US and metric is socialist.
2) Studies - some by people who aren't gun nuts - demonstrate that the leetle-bit extra "stopping power" from the .40 bullet can lead, in the hands of a well-trained shooter, to less rounds being fired. And we all know how often shootings are performed by well-trained people, so it's like totally a huge issue.

But I think you've got the wrong end of the stick: You should draft everyone into the milita, but then give them whatever weapon their rank entitles them too. The *beauty* of the scheme, you see, is that you make a direct connection between a militia-member's authority and the power of the weapon they're allowed to own. It's super-motivational.

You should also create public-works for militia members to contribute to, and doing so earns them credit toward higher rank.

Yes, I'm suggesting that you run the country like a giant MMORPG. (Including giving tax rebates in "USBUX", a currency that can only be spent within the US on US-produced goods.)

Ok, you're hired as a minister of something. Your first assignment is fill in the something.

Your second is to round up everyone who thinks I'm giving guns away.

 

[Borachio]

Iono, unless I randomly click bad links this took less than 10 seconds to find and seems to come from an article less than 3 months old.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...re-site-Staffordshire-Haul.html#axzz2KhioiBqQ

Well, I know. But Anglo-Saxon stuff is just stuff we've buried and forgotten about. I forget about all that kind of thing myself. I live very near to Sutton Hoo but I've never been to see it - yet. I keep meaning to, but never get round to it.

Dinosaurs and really exciting things. Like alien lizards and underground bunkers. Practically nothing at all.

 

[Antilogic]

I choose to interpret this as literally as possible, and Ziggy's proposal does not say anything about mass amputation. Therefore, it's legit.

 

[Borachio]

So, the right to bare arms. . . it's a constitutional right of Americans to roll their sleeves up?

 

[Carras Dad]

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

It's easy to ridicule a one-sentence solution to a complex issue isn't it?

Makes you wonder why people are foolish enough to think it's some sort of sacred ground rule upon which to base legislation.

 

[timtofly]

It's easy to ridicule a one-sentence solution to a complex issue isn't it?

Makes you wonder why people are foolish enough to think it's some sort of sacred ground rule upon which to base legislation.

I still want my canon though.

 

[Borachio]

Canon you may have - and lots of it. Cannon(s) on the other hand: less dangerous perhaps, but more explosive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_(fiction)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon



Bazooka!

 

[timtofly]

Canon you may have - and lots of it. Cannon(s) on the other hand: less dangerous perhaps, but more explosive.

I need my Florida tutor also.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I still want my canon though.

Fine, but no concealed carry mister!

I'm one hell of a lousy tyrant.

 

[Borachio]

Canon (florida tutor)

 

[CocoIsKing28]

I think you're all missing a vital part of the United States(#1!) Constititution.

Originally posted by James Madison
When some moron finally finds a way to create a weapon that can fire more than one ball per hour, we the people of these United States should be armed, at our own expense, with these weapons, in order to protect against tyranny, socialists, commies, etc. (also, if we come to take your guns away, feel free to shoot us down, okay?)

 

[JohannaK]

Most interesting thread. And funny.

 

[Birdjaguar]

First off, apogolies to any French speaking persons. Next:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

As I see it, people can bear arms all over the place and I'm not infringing anything with regard to the bearing of the arms. the thing says: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." not "the right of the people to keep and bear any kind of arms they like shall not be infringed."

It is a single sentence and the second part is dependent upon the first. this part:

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

does not stand alone. The intent is quite clear, as is the misapplication by many.