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Leader addiction

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by Quildavyr, Aug 30, 2007.

  1. blitzkrieg1980

    blitzkrieg1980 Octobrist

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    @Molon Labe: Yeah, I was struggling on Noble for a while, then I started playing as many non-Aggressive civs as i could, and now i'm surprised when not at the top of the pack. Soon i'll move to Prince :)
     
  2. jimbob27

    jimbob27 Emperor

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    I tend to vary my leaders quite a bit... I just don't really play much with any creative or imperialistic leaders. I don't really like those traits.... and there's so many others to pick from.... I never use them to improve my abilities with them. They don't really seem to be strategy building traits, like financial or philosophical are.
     
  3. hoopsnerd

    hoopsnerd Prince

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    Ditto, I hate those traits and aggressive as well.
     
  4. seasnake

    seasnake Conquistador

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    The SS top 10 ranked:
    (Note: all leaders are attached to base civ for purpose of this ranking)

    1) Hammurabbi
    2) Ragnar
    3) Shaka
    4) Louis XIV
    5) Churchill
    6) Alexander
    7) Huayna Capac
    8) Willem
    9) Shi Huang
    10) Gilgamesh

    These rankings were compiled by the highly technical process (it seemed to make sense to me at the time, in other words). But they do generally reflect my playing preference. However, I have used every civ and leader for at least half a game (yes, I play way too much) or more and they are all great if you're willing to play to their strengths.
     
  5. Angst

    Angst Rambling and inconsistent

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    Mehmed for massive workers and great countries.. and production
     
  6. zenspiderz

    zenspiderz Just some bloke..

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    It took me a while to get the hang of a SE economy but it was worth the effort. It is definately more challenging than a CE, requiring much more thought and attention but it also has some great advantages over CE. For example SE give many, many more Great People and are less vulnerable and attractive to pillagers (pillaged farms are easy to replace and don't yeild much gold whereas pillaged towns yeild huge quantities of gold and take such a long time to regrow...). Aslo the CE is very dependant on the slider which is a clumsy tool at best as it applies to every city equally regardless of its specialisation... With an SE economy you can very precisely and efficently specialise your cities to achieve particular situational goals, science/espionage/culture/gold/production whatever...

    It isn't really that wonder dependant. Yes Pyramids give a SE a real boost becuase you can run 'representation' so much earlier but it is not the be all end all... for example even just a single specialist gives +3 GPP whereas even world wonders typically only give +2 GPP and national wonders only +1.. Add philo and a single specialist gives +6 GPP (sans other modifiers such as pacifism or parthenon) and W wonders give +4 GPP, nat wonders just +2 GPP....
    consider some of the other wonders and you will see that all are at least slightly useful to a SE economy but many are notuseful to a CE economy at all... This is another way to look at wonders that favours SE.
     
  7. Monkeyfinger

    Monkeyfinger Deity

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    I don't have too much trouble with specific leader addiction, just trait addiction. Can't imagine playing without at least one of financial, philosophical or charismatic. I mix up the leaders I beat games with, but they all have at least one of those.
     
  8. Badesumofu

    Badesumofu Warlord

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    In Vanilla I was addicted to Fin. I played a variety of Financial leaders, enjoyed Lizzy a lot because Redcoats were beasts back then. When Warlords came out, I became addicted to Charismatic. The happiness is amazing early, and being able to get lots of promos, and be able to choose them, and get them on all units- amazing.

    Sadly this means that I rarely play anyone but Hannibal. Cothons are pretty awesome to boot.
     

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