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Discussion in 'All Other Games' started by Dell19, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    I reiterate; I hate the concept runes. If you use your IP to buy champions, then later you're going to have a tough time when playing against people who spent money to buy champions and used their IP on runes instead. So basically yes money seems to buy power, and not just pretty skins and stuff. I was so excited to grind up and get my own champions, now I'm miffed that I'm thinking "but I need to get runes later on" ... Sucks.
     
  2. Tyo

    Tyo HANDS HIGH TO THE SOUND Retired Moderator

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    In the upper levels you can pretty much buy a rune per completed game. Be grateful you aren't like me and spent IP on runes AND champs in the low levels.

    So, don't worry about it. You can buy the champs you want and the runes with no real problem.
     
  3. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    I'm not sure I get it. You're telling me that you made the mistake of using IP on runes and champs in the low levels. Then you tell me not to worry and go ahead and buy runes and champs.

    Unless I'm not reading this right :p
     
  4. Tyo

    Tyo HANDS HIGH TO THE SOUND Retired Moderator

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    I see where I worded it wrong there. I meant you should buy any champs you want, cause it won't affect much in the long-run. I couldn't imagine you to even buy enough champs to blow your ip off so much you can't afford decent tier 3's when you can get 'em, unless you change champs a ridiculous amount of times(which is what the free week champs are for).

    Don't buy anything under tier 3's, lol. I was just saying you shouldn't worry, because I made worse decisions in my leveling up and it didn't utterly screw me over(no matter how much I thought it would when I realized what I was doing.)
     
  5. Racsoviale

    Racsoviale Smoke me a kipper!

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    Regarding lanes: besides the usual loud mouths who should just be ignored, there are some legitimate concerns reagarding who goes in what lane, but this is closely related to who you lane opponents are.

    Say you are 2 melee champs in a lane against two ranged camps. You will be very hard pressed to keep them away from your tower, furthermore they will annoy you to now end whenever you try and last hit minions.

    if your team has just a few teamplayers you would be quick to change laningpartners so you would be better at defending if not pushing them back.

    People calling others noobs seldom help solve the problem, and usually also play a carry so they can get as many kills as possible no matter if it helps the team or not.

    You could also be laning against two champs who are very good against the two champs you have in that lane, in that case a change of lanes could be the solution.

    I like to play Alistar or other tanks/supporters and I groan whenever im up against twisted fate(?) because his cards hurt like hell and you cant hide behind creeps. If im laning against him and my teammate cant hit Twisted Fate(maybe because his champ cant get to him) I would suggest he switch with another ranged champ who can. Rarely people do what I suggest but there you have it:dunno:
     
  6. Tykinruoka

    Tykinruoka Unlimited power

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    In randoms the basic rule for this seemed to be always to send a champ that farms well to mid and that's about it. I liked to play Kog in mid even tho there we're many that said it was a bad idea. If they chose a squishy carry to mid I usually managed to harass their farm with Kog's ulti and keep the enemy champ at low hp, so they had to be careful and couldn't get in properly for last hits. Sometimes I managed to get them killed early by not using my ulti for a long time even if I had already reached lvl 6. It caught most inexperienced players by suprise when they overextended. If the side lanes we're also doing good, their carry at endgame was seriously crippled.

    Ofc if the opposing team isn't completely oblivious to what is happening, they will switch their mid in time.

    I feel your pain, since I played Ali a lot too. However my biggest problem was always that I was laned up with a carry that stole all the last hits and I ended up being as useful as a paperbag in the endgame without proper items.
     
  7. Racsoviale

    Racsoviale Smoke me a kipper!

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    Yeah laning with a carry who last hits most minions is annoying, but on the other hand he is meant to get beefed up so he can own the mid/late game, if that means I dont get as much gold as he does it is ok in my book.
    Another point I feel is good to include is how much gold you really need, a pair of boots and some mana regen/cool down reduction is usually enough for me for a long time, and by getting a lot of assists(hello headbutt:D) I get what I need.
    Maybe it is because I really like the cow but his abilities seem to me to be just as efficient if he has very expensive items or he has nothing(it is the stun and push you really want anyway)

    And regarding assists I feel that If I have made 6+ assists as a support/tank I have done quite well, I might not have a single kill, and might even have a few deaths, but it is not my job to kill things, I just make it easier for those whose job it is;)
     
  8. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    I played Alistar, Master Yi and Veigar most. They were free... Alistar was looking good if I had to buy one in those three. I liked hiding in a bush and headbutting someone into the tower area or towards my teammate... But I guess that won't be as easy to do later on when people actually scout the brush...

    Do champs change price in IP? I mean, I don't know if I should buy champs that are more than 1300-ish points if more or them are gonna go down eventually as new ones pop out.

    Also, Tyo, I've seen the reverse tip a few times: just fill out rune pages with Tier 1 runes...
     
  9. Till

    Till Adventurer

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    Some champions have become cheaper over time, and more probably will, as Riot keeps releasing new champions at high price points. Unless you really want a specific champion, i would suggest clearing the lower price points one by one.
     
  10. Racsoviale

    Racsoviale Smoke me a kipper!

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    Rub'Rum: when people scout the bush you have a handy and cheap stun to stop them and then the fun begins:D
     
  11. Tykinruoka

    Tykinruoka Unlimited power

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    Yes, I've never tried to kill anyone unless it's been headbutting some REALLY low hp champ who is escaping(Not really recommended tho since if he doesn't die, you look like idiot for helping him escape). I usually got about 4-6 assists per game atleast. I did sacrifice myself gladly if it helped to buy time for our carries to escape or nuke enemy champs(tanks goes in first, leaves last or not at all). I agree that carries have prio to farm, but even with Ali's abilities you can't deny that without some base items with necessary resists you wont last long enough to use them in the endgame. :D
     
  12. Dell19

    Dell19 Take a break

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    Or get someone to place traps in the bush. I think my favourite kill was when I had teleported back to base and someone ran into a trap in the bush, evidently trying to teleport back as well.
     
  13. Racsoviale

    Racsoviale Smoke me a kipper!

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    It is very rare that I kill someone from a headbutt(the damage is so low) I use it only for getting someone into our group for a quick kill or for saving one of my teammates from a gank(possibly dying in the progress).
    I sort of disagree on the last part regarding lasting without items, since you should get enough gold from assists and killing minions in the midgame that you should be able to get the items you need.
    But I suppose it is a matter of how many items/gold one wants to get, personally I have found that I dont need that many items. After some boots and mana regain and cooldown items it gets a bit random regarding what items I want. Ofcoarse the opposision also matters - if their veigar is nasty and deals extreme amounts of damage ill go for magic resistance, if their master yig(?) kills everything ill go for armour.
    But in general I dont have that many preferences after getting some boots and mana regen/cool down items.

    even better: wards, they mean so much in this game but because they dissappear after some time people dont buy them. But knowing where the other team is going is such a help that it makes a lot of games much easier.

    Damn im gonna play this game when I get home from work:D
     
  14. Dell19

    Dell19 Take a break

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    Forgot to comment on this earlier. So far I'm level 19 and have nearly 10k IP ready for runes and I've still been able to spend something like 6k IP on characters and that would have been less if I didn't decide to buy certain characters as I felt they suited my game style.

    I do need to start using wards.
     
  15. Dell19

    Dell19 Take a break

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    I'm about to hit level 20 so I'm curious what people do about runes. Do you specialise a rune sheet for each character or do you go for more general rune sheets that might work with more characters? Also do people buy more rune sheets as this seems like it would be necessary eventually?
     
  16. Till

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    I made do with two runes pages for the longest time:

    Magic Pen Reds
    Mana Regen/Level Yellows
    Ability Power/Level Blues
    Ability Power Quints

    Amor Pen Reds
    Armor Yellows
    Magic Resist/Level Blues
    Armor Pen Quints

    The first page fits just about any caster (you'll waste the mana regen on manaless casters but oh well). The second is great for AD carries, brawlers, and junglers. Also works OK for tanks.
     
  17. Rub'Rum

    Rub'Rum Hates acronyms

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    Do you use tier 3 runes Till?

    btw right now I haven't bought anything with my IP, I believe I am close to 3500 or so. I got a couple of Champs for free (Alistar and TeemoTristana, using the free skins offers that also give you the champ for free...).

    My favorite champs of these first two weeks of playing, among the ones that were free for one week, have been Alistar and Morgana mainly, and a bit of Master Yi and Veigar (although the latter's voice is enough to make me not spend any points on him!). I don't even try the 6300 IP heroes because it seems like a waste of time since I won't be playing them before a loooong time... Well I guess it's always useful to try champs you don't intend to play just to know what their abilities are when you are facing them. But I only have so much time on my hands hehe.

    Also gotta hate the 22 hours "first win of the day" thing. I'd rather it just be "once per calendar day". Some nights I can play at 6pm, some others it's 11pm you know.
     
  18. Till

    Till Adventurer

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    Yes, i never bothered with Tier 1/2 runes. How can you not like Veigar? He's adorable! :D
     
  19. B4tman

    B4tman Warlord

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    Veigar was my main. He's the best nuker in the game in my opinion.
     
  20. Tyo

    Tyo HANDS HIGH TO THE SOUND Retired Moderator

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    Veigar can 1-hit almost any non-tank. He IS the best nuker in the game.
     

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