[RD] LGBTQ News II

All education is "indoctrination" if you don't approve of the message, but I can almost guarantee that the sorts of "sexual" education these people are talking about is even mentioning that queer people exist. It's no different to the moral panic of the 50/60s or the climate of fear in the 80s and 90s in the UK, where even mentioning gay people in school might have been construed as "supporting" their existence.

Moreover, there are regrets associated with any surgery (or other body modifications, such as tattoos). Gender-affirming surgeries have some of the lowest regret rates in medicine and this is backed up by many studies.
 
I am trying to be as respectful as possible, specially for you @IglooDame, but I can't condone child indoctrination on sexual education before reaching a teenage age...but if an event like "drag library time" is of voluntary admission only, then I see no harm in that...heck teenage me would probably have loved going to such an event...maybe even trying dressing drag for fun.

The taking away kids from parents that might be reaching for life altering hormone treatment/surgeries just for social score on social media without properly taking them kids through the many doctor appointments to verify if the child is truly suffering from gender dysphoria (are there medical analysis to factually point out gender dysphoria like brain scan, hormone analysis?...legit question) is a very far harsh decision...but I could agree with it if the child truly doesn't want to go to procedures that will alter gender and the parents are just forcing the issue on a "whim". I've seen the "proud parents" social media posts and headlines for trans kids...but, oh, they feel so wrong...If I ever am blessed with a child, and if child develops a gender dysphoria issue I would provide support as much as possible but I would never go on social media looking for social score on "look at my trans kid ain't i cool or what!?"
Unfortunately regrets on going through with life altering hormone treatment/surgeries over a badly diagnosed gender dysphoria end up on issues all through life and even depression and suicide, something that sometimes appears the community tries to hide and that's is wrong!

Conservative me will accept adults with bottom surgery in any women space, competition, field...the rest is just "cheating/abusing" the system. Human rights should cover the rest...I hope.

These are a whole bunch of imaginary problems you're declaring you're opposed to.
1. Whatever child indoctrination is
2. That there can be events that are not "voluntary admission".
3. Social media influencer parents are transing their kids.
4. Your assumption that all "proud parents" are insincere and doing it for clout
5. Use of gender affirming care for cheating/abusing the system, and that trans rights are somehow opposed to human rights.
 
I am trying to be as respectful as possible, specially for you @IglooDame, but I can't condone child indoctrination on sexual education before reaching a teenage age...but if an event like "drag library time" is of voluntary admission only, then I see no harm in that...heck teenage me would probably have loved going to such an event...maybe even trying dressing drag for fun.
Kids are called girlfriend and boyfriend in popular culture from the age of toddlers. Your outrage is as inconsistent as it is misplaced.
 
For example you can see it play out on this very forum wrt trans "issues" and how acceptable it is to say unhinged **** that is comparable to homophobic arguments used to justify the repression of gay, lesbian, bisexual and queer people

See below:

I am trying to be as respectful as possible, specially for you @IglooDame, but I can't condone child indoctrination on sexual education before reaching a teenage age...but if an event like "drag library time" is of voluntary admission only, then I see no harm in that...heck teenage me would probably have loved going to such an event...maybe even trying dressing drag for fun.

The taking away kids from parents that might be reaching for life altering hormone treatment/surgeries just for social score on social media without properly taking them kids through the many doctor appointments to verify if the child is truly suffering from gender dysphoria (are there medical analysis to factually point out gender dysphoria like brain scan, hormone analysis?...legit question) is a very far harsh decision...but I could agree with it if the child truly doesn't want to go to procedures that will alter gender and the parents are just forcing the issue on a "whim". I've seen the "proud parents" social media posts and headlines for trans kids...but, oh, they feel so wrong...If I ever am blessed with a child, and if child develops a gender dysphoria issue I would provide support as much as possible but I would never go on social media looking for social score on "look at my trans kid ain't i cool or what!?"
Unfortunately regrets on going through with life altering hormone treatment/surgeries over a badly diagnosed gender dysphoria end up on issues all through life and even depression and suicide, something that sometimes appears the community tries to hide and that's is wrong!

Conservative me will accept adults with bottom surgery in any women space, competition, field...the rest is just "cheating/abusing" the system. Human rights should cover the rest...I hope.

Dude can't help but talk about what genitals we do or do not have, getting very angry at what he imagines trans people and kids to be

There's a tireless onslaught against my community and it's open season, both on this forum and irl
 
I am trying to be as respectful as possible, specially for you @IglooDame, but I can't condone child indoctrination on sexual education before reaching a teenage age...but if an event like "drag library time" is of voluntary admission only, then I see no harm in that...heck teenage me would probably have loved going to such an event...maybe even trying dressing drag for fun.

The taking away kids from parents that might be reaching for life altering hormone treatment/surgeries just for social score on social media without properly taking them kids through the many doctor appointments to verify if the child is truly suffering from gender dysphoria (are there medical analysis to factually point out gender dysphoria like brain scan, hormone analysis?...legit question) is a very far harsh decision...but I could agree with it if the child truly doesn't want to go to procedures that will alter gender and the parents are just forcing the issue on a "whim". I've seen the "proud parents" social media posts and headlines for trans kids...but, oh, they feel so wrong...If I ever am blessed with a child, and if child develops a gender dysphoria issue I would provide support as much as possible but I would never go on social media looking for social score on "look at my trans kid ain't i cool or what!?"
Unfortunately regrets on going through with life altering hormone treatment/surgeries over a badly diagnosed gender dysphoria end up on issues all through life and even depression and suicide, something that sometimes appears the community tries to hide and that's is wrong!

Conservative me will accept adults with bottom surgery in any women space, competition, field...the rest is just "cheating/abusing" the system. Human rights should cover the rest...I hope.
First off, perhaps a @mod could spin this into a separate thread? We're into discussion rather than news, here, and there's just so much here to respond to.
 
"Kids are called girlfriend and boyfriend in popular culture from the age of toddlers. Your outrage is as inconsistent as it is misplaced."
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Dude can't help but talk about what genitals we do or do not have, getting very angry at what he imagines trans people and kids to be

There's a tireless onslaught against my community and it's open season, both on this forum and irl"
(for some reason quoting tools aren't working for me right now)

Why does everyone assume I am outraged or angry!?:confused:
I am not!
Can't express a damn opinion these days without making a preface!:sad:
...
also please, pretty please stop reading everything you disagree with as bad faith or malicious intent from me! It's just an opinion, I am not hunting people, ok!?
 
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Moderator Action: This is a news thread and not a discussion thread. Questions are fine too.
 
"Kids are called girlfriend and boyfriend in popular culture from the age of toddlers. Your outrage is as inconsistent as it is misplaced."
"
Dude can't help but talk about what genitals we do or do not have, getting very angry at what he imagines trans people and kids to be

There's a tireless onslaught against my community and it's open season, both on this forum and irl"
(for some reason quoting tools aren't working for me right now)

Why does everyone assume I am outraged or angry!?:confused:
I am not!
Can't express a damn opinion these days without making a preface!:sad:
...
also please, pretty please stop reading everything you disagree with as bad faith or malicious intent from me! It's just as opinion, I am not hunting people, ok!?

You've responded in a way that expresses an opinion inviting further response and more discussion in a news/Q&A-only thread.

Start a new thread for it, I guess.
 
Which comes a day after a 25 year statue of limitations bill on gender affirming care was brought down to just 4 years.
What are the details of this one? The only context in which I've heard "statute of limitations" is in regard to the prosecution of historical crimes, so don't get how the concept applies here.
 
It's about making gender affirming care as difficult as possible to obtain, all the hoops and indignities, in much the same way terfs/gcs/whatever the hell those obsessed freaks are calling themselves, are endlessly lobbying for more barriers if not total removal of hormones and gender affirming care for trans people in the uk both on the nhs and privately
 
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How does the statute of limitations fit into it?
 
I echo Manfred and Birdjag; from the limited reporting I saw I don't know how the statute of limitations fits in.
(I'm assuming by default it a terrible abusive stupid law.)
 
Is that "Statue Of Limitations" seriously like 25 years to access gender affirming care? Or something else? I just want to know what type of creeps we are dealing with......
 
(1) An action brought by a person for damages for injuries suffered from gender transition treatment the person received as a minor must be commenced within 25 4 years from the date the person reaches 18 years of age or within 4 years from the time of discovery by the person of both the injury and the causal relationship between the gender transition treatment and the injury, whichever occurs later.
 

GOP lawmakers pass bill allowing child genital exams without parental consent​

And that was actually an improvement over a previous version of the bill.

Republicans at the West Virginia Legislature passed a bill that would allow health care providers to “visually or physically examine a minor child” for the purpose of identifying their “biological sex” without the “consent of the child’s parent, guardian, or custodian.”

The bill, S.B. 456, would define sex based on whether a person produces eggs or sperm. It says that gender-segregated spaces like locker rooms or restrooms are to be used based on a person’s sex assigned at birth, and it leaves no room for trans or nonbinary people’s identities. It also says that all intersex people are “either male or female” but does not give a basis for assigning a sex to them.

The bill would have far-ranging effects, including on how transgender students are treated at schools. The text states that all multi-occupancy facilities like restrooms and changing rooms have to be designated as either exclusively for those assigned male at birth or those assigned female at birth.

Yesterday, the West Virginia House of Delegates approved an amendment from Del. J.B. Akers (R) to allow a child’s “treating health care provider” to examine a child’s genitals without the consent of their parents. The amendment states that only the treating health care provider can perform such examinations without the parents’ consent. The amendment does not mention adults, and therefore presumably they could be forced to undergo such examinations by anyone.

The amendment was actually an improvement over a previous version of the bill, which, state Democrats argued, would have allowed teachers to perform the genital examinations.

Akers’ amendment was the Republican response to one proposed by Del. Kayla Young (D), which would have banned child and adult genital examinations altogether.

“It’s unconscionable that Republicans would support legislation that authorizes intrusive visual inspections of minors without parental approval,” Young said. “West Virginians should be alarmed and disgusted by this invasion of privacy.”

The state Senate passed S.B. 456 in a 32-1 vote last Monday, March 3. There are only three Democrats in the body; state Sen. Mike Woelfel (D) voted for the bill, state Sen. Joey Garcia (D) voted against it, and state Sen. Robert Plymale (D) was absent. On Friday, the bill passed the House of Delegates in an 87-9 vote.

The bill was then passed by both chambers again on Monday, March 7 with the amendment. It will now go to Gov. Patrick Morrisey (R) for his signature.

Yesterday, state Democrats – who control only 11 seats out of 100 in the House of Delegates – held a press conference to denounce the bill as well as several others that they say will harm children, including a bill to allow teachers to use corporal punishment and another bill that rolls back vaccine requirements for schools.

“While people sit around the dinner table looking at electric bills, that look more like what they used to take home in a month versus an electric bill, when we have coal mines that are shutting down because of saber-rattling in Washington over tariffs, when we have an unelected bureaucrat who’s firing federal employees that administer services that our people depend on – these are the types of issues that we are worried about?” Del. John Williams (D) said at the press conference, according to Real WV. “West Virginia has bigger problems and bigger fish to fry.”
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03...child-genital-exams-without-parental-consent/
 
This once again proves that it's not gay or trans people who are interested in children's genitals - it's politicians. If I found out that anyone had laid hands on my child without their permission, there would be hell to pay.
 
Great. Our tax dollars at work. :vomit:

And yes, given the GOP's track record with rape, their smears on gay and trans people are blatant projection.
 
There's a former micro political party in Australia called the Democratic Labour Party with the usual slew of far right anti queer arch-christian etc policies, that had to change its name to get around anti mimicry laws (ie confusion with the actual Labor party).

So they renamed themselves to "Stop Pedophiles! Protect kiddies!" and it's absolutely the most child molester coded name I've ever heard.

Something about the word "kiddies" used in an official capacity just screams creepy deflection and projection like this GOP stuff does. They would absolutely be on board with genital inspections for safety.
 
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