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Don't forget after that MT and < 3960 gets enlightenment from Spain.
LK165 - CCM, Deity, Space Race, Arabia
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Elephantium
Malcolm was a very good cat.
We have another Settler. Thoughts on placement?
We also got a Leader!
We also got a Leader!
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2 possible city sites (though they are a rather long walk) are (1) 5 tiles northwest of Surf city on the coast with hardwood to the northeast; (2) on the coast 2 tiles north of Leptis Magna.
Also, since you are getting Democracy next turn, I suggest using the Leader to build the Constitution (gives a happy face to every city) in some close by city that cannot flip.
Further, I will lobby for the Capitol to be built in Mekka and,
the Army Headquarters to be built (after we become a Democracy) in Cheju.
I did not check to see if Enlightenment gives us any small or great wonders.
Also, since you are getting Democracy next turn, I suggest using the Leader to build the Constitution (gives a happy face to every city) in some close by city that cannot flip.
Further, I will lobby for the Capitol to be built in Mekka and,
the Army Headquarters to be built (after we become a Democracy) in Cheju.
I did not check to see if Enlightenment gives us any small or great wonders.
Elephantium
Malcolm was a very good cat.
Constitution and Army HQ cost 400 shields. Capitol costs 500. I'm inclined to use the leader on the Capitol. Cheju can get up to around 40 spt (Army HQ in 10), and Surf City is at 58spt (Constitution in 4 turns). Hmm, OTOH, maybe rushing Army HQ is more important.
Any other suggestions, team?
Oh - in other news, the war goes badly. We lost both Casablanca (retaken) and Leptis Magna (held) in culture flips. Maghreb landed a HUGE stack (8 units) next to Tangier and retook the city. They have Arabian Line Infantry (6-6-1) now, and I barely have enough units to deal with their units coming in. This will take about 10 turns to improve. We have more units being built now, but they'll take several turns to move to the front.
Other than the high % chance of losing Casablanca again to a culture flip, I'm half-inclined to make peace with Maghreb and attack Turkey. Thoughts?
Any other suggestions, team?
Oh - in other news, the war goes badly. We lost both Casablanca (retaken) and Leptis Magna (held) in culture flips. Maghreb landed a HUGE stack (8 units) next to Tangier and retook the city. They have Arabian Line Infantry (6-6-1) now, and I barely have enough units to deal with their units coming in. This will take about 10 turns to improve. We have more units being built now, but they'll take several turns to move to the front.
Other than the high % chance of losing Casablanca again to a culture flip, I'm half-inclined to make peace with Maghreb and attack Turkey. Thoughts?
Both Army Headquarters and the Capitol provide a barracks. However, Army Headquarters can only be built when we are a Democracy, and we should wait to revolt into Democracy until we are not at war.
Only reason I suggested rushing Constitution was for the happy face.
Enlightenment gives us Cavalry which should help with Maghreb Line Infantry.
Only reason I suggested rushing Constitution was for the happy face.
Enlightenment gives us Cavalry which should help with Maghreb Line Infantry.
Elephantium
Malcolm was a very good cat.
Pre-turn:
Odd, I can see Spanish units even in the fog. Is it a debug setting that hasn't been turned off?
Mullah converts Incan XBow
We buy Military Tradition from Germany for 3907 + iron.
We buy Enlightenment from Spain for 3362 + MT
I switch Iron Horse Saloon to Military Academy.
I switch Wonsan to Eastern Cav, due in 1.
Hear me out!
This means that we can rush a Uni from 0 next turn.
Democracy is due in 7.
I don't see any reason to stop building Great Palace in Bagdad, so I leave it be.
IBT:
Pirate ship is the only bombardment that pings one of our guys along the Maghreb coast.
Foot unit forces our wounded horse to retreat
Another one kills him 0-1
WE retreats vs. Leptis Magna
1740 AD, T211:
Cuirassier kills WE near Casablanca 1-1
Eastern Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 2-1
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 3-1
Cuirassier retreats
Cuirassier dies 3-2
Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 4-2
3/4 Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 5-2
3/4 Cannon kills Grenadier 6-2
3/4 Cannon kills Grenadier 7-2
Cuirassier dies to Musketman 7-3
3/4 Cuirassier kills Musketman 8-3
Mullah kills Numidian Mercenary 9-3
Enslaver narrowly dies to Crossbow 9-4
Enslaver retreats
Mullah Master captures Crossbow 10-4
Musketman kills redlined Crossbow 11-4
eCuirassier kills redlined WE near Leptis Magna 12-4
IBT:
Grenadier kills one of our Musketmen. 12-5
Casablanca deposes us, we lose 1 Musket in the city 12-6
Stockholm completes Storm of the North
1745 AD, T212:
Retaking Casablanca:
Hussar dies to Nizam Infantry 12-7
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 13-7
Eastern Cav retreats
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 14-7
~4100 gold
We meet Israel N of Nubia. They're broke, down Economics and Absolutism, but they have Furs for sale.
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier near Mekka, promotes to elite 15-7
I culture-bomb Leptis Magna
Cuirassier kills Grenadier 16-7
Many cities are about to riot, so I up the lux slider to 20%
IBT:
Persia warns us. We apologize.
Maghreb calls us, offering straight peace. They're not willing to part with Democracy in exchange for amnesty, so we keep the war going.
Leptis Magna deposes us. 15-8
Propaganda in Tangier.
1750 AD, T213:
Eastern Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 16-8
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 17-8
Cuirassier dies 17-9
Cuirassier kills Nizam Incan 18-9
Cuirassier kills Nizam Incan 19-9
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 20-9
3/4 Eastern Cannon retreats
3/4 Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 21-9
3/4 Eastern Cannon retreats
3/4 Eastern Cannon narrowly kills Grenadier 22-9
Hussar narrowly kills Grenadier 23-9
Pirate Frigate captures Maghreb War Galleon 24-9
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 25-9
I see that Maghreb now have Arabian Line Infantry, 6-6-1.
We need more troops!
I see that the Spanish deal has expired. I dial them up and declare war!
I lose 1 War Galleon sinking a Merchantman 26-10
I land our troops next to Valladolid.
IBT:
Grenadier kills our hillside Pike next to Casablanca 26-11
1755 AD, T214:
Cuirassier dies to the Grenadier 26-12
Cannon kills the Grenadier 27-12
Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 28-12
Battle of Valladolid:
Cuirassier retreats vs. Spanish Late Pikeman
Cuirassier kills Spanish Late Pikeman 29-12
Cuirassier dies 29-13
Cuirassier kills Crossbow 30-13
Cuirassier kills redlined Spanish Late Pikeman, takes 213 gold, and razes the city! 31-13
Back by Casablanca...Eastern Cannon retreats
Cuirassier dies 31-14
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 32-14
Mullah kills wounded Nizam Infantry 33-14
IBT:
Nubia boots our Explorer
Privateer sinks while attacking our exploring War Galleon near Persian shores
Israel complains about our ship
Maghreb WE kills our Mullah 33-15
Maghreb lands 8 units next to Tangier. I think we're losing the city next turn.
1760 AD, T215:
Battle of Leptis Magna:
Cuirassier dies 33-16
Cuirassier kills Arabian Line Infantry 34-16
Cuirassier retreats
Cuirassier kills Arabian Line Infantry 35-16
Cuirassier kills wounded Arabian Line Infantry 36-16
Cuirassier retreats. City holds, for now.
Eastern Cannon narrowly kills Arabian Line Infantry 37-16
I see that Britain now has Democracy -- no more opportunity for a twofer
IBT:
Maghreb Cannon kills the defender. Tangier falls. 37-17
318 gold lost.
Grenadier murders MDI 37-18
Grenadier forces Cuirassier to retreat
Grenadier forces Cuirassier to retreat
Grenadier kills Cuirassier 37-19
Cannon murders Cuirassier 38-19
Cannon murders Cuirassier 38-20
Ouch We lost three Cuirassiers in that disaster, and the retreating stack is in complete disarray.
South America is working on Code Civil
Dutch got caught planting a spy.
1765 AD, T216:
Huh, we know the Lowlands now. They're a Democracy with 194k gold.
Cannon dies on Grenadier
38-21
Grenadier narrowly kills Grenadier on Mekka's mine 39-21
Enslaver captures the redlined Grenadier and nets a Leader! 40-21
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 41-21
I abandon Palma.
IBT:
Persia declares on Russia!
Lowlands offers to sell us Naval Power for 8300 gold. No, thanks. I'd rather make that deal with Germany or Incas.
Incas and Britain sign peace.
Maghreb arty pulverises one of our Eastern Musketeers 41-22
Democracy > Naval Power
Maghreb and Germany are both building Code Civil.
1770 AD, T217:
Our leader rushes Constitution in Wonsan -- only thing available without switching to Democracy first. @JerseyJoe, you were right!
Lawyer kills Numidian Mercenary who landed near Casablanca 42-22
Enslaver captures Warrior, same tile. 43-22
Eastern Cavalry kills Maghreb arty. Odd, I didn't see an attack animation. 44-22
Eastern Cannon kills Maghreb Grenadier 45-22
We meet India. They're backwards and broke (lacking Absolutism and Mercantilism).
Buying Naval Power:
Germany wants 8860.
Britain wants Coal, Horses, and 6580.
Inca wants Horses and 7730.
Lowlands now wants Silver and 8590.
NUBIA DOES NOT KNOW DEMOCRACY!!! WOOHOO!
We make the deal as a straight-up trade. They don't have anything to sweeten the pot, and we don't need to offer anything more than Democracy.
We could buy Napoleonic Age, but it will cost about 10k gold. Plus, we have several cities at the 50-spt sweet spot for Nizam Infantry. I'm going to hold off for now.
IBT:
Germany warns us about our Explorer. We apologize.
War elephant dies vs. our Grenadier 46-22
Arabian Line Infantry narrowly kills the redlined Grenadier 46-23
This was on the mined silver tile - RIP production in Mekka
Casablanca is down to 1 population
We catch Maghreb sabotaging Pusan
1775 AD, T218:
Eastern Cannon retreats from a Grenadier, humiliating.
Eastern Cav kills the Grenadier near Mekka 47-23
Hussar narrowly kills MDI who landed W of Casablanca 48-23
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 49-23
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 50-23
Bucket of Sassanid Clibanarii kills enemy Cannon, somewhat sacrificially; we have some Cannons that are otherwise exposed. 51-23
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 52-23
We meet Poland! They're broke and backwards, lacking Free Artistry, Naval Guns, etc.
We also know Aztecs/Mexico (I'm not sure if we knew them before this, but we see one of their units with a naval explorer on the other continent). Also broke and backwards.
Lawyer kills MDI near Casablanca 53-23
IBT:
South America warns us about our Explorer. We apologize.
Maghreb cannon kills our sacrificial cav 53-24
Grenadier kills Sassanid Clibanarii 53-25
Oz completes Sydney Cove.
1780 AD, T219:
Eastern Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 54-25
Eastern Cavalry kills Nizam Infantry 55-25
Eastern Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 56-25
Eastern Cavalry narrowly dies to Arabian Line Infantry 56-26
Eastern Cavalry dies to Arabian Line Infantry 56-27
Eastern Cavalry retreats
Eastern Cannon kills Arabian Line Infantry 57-27
Trading...
Bastion Fortifications to Aztecs for 55 + 72gpt
Naval Power to Persia for Tobacco, 23 + 9gpt
Naval Power to Scandinavia for 26 + 60gpt
Horses to Israel for Furs!
Science slider to 60%, Napoleonic Age still due in 6.
IBT:
USA warns us about our Explorer. We apologize.
Austria-Hungary completes Hofburg.
Dutch are building Crystal Palace. They also complete Code Civil.
1785 AD, T220:
Pirate Frigate sinks attacking Maghreb Paddle Steamer 57-28
Grenadier dies to Arabian Line Infantry, barely 57-29
Lawyer kills the now-redlined Arabian Line Infantry 58-29
The front:
Handoff notes:
The Maghreb war went badly. We're at 30% lux to deal with WW. Losses have been high. I've only barely managed to get any infantry reinforcements to the front as of the end of my turnset. However, now that we have troops en route, we should be able to go on the offensive. I have an attack stack started near Casablanca; it could retake Tangier soon.
Exploring has gone well. Spain is gone. We've met a few new tribes. Research is going reasonably well, too, but we have more to do once we grab the Maghreb lands.
We have a Clan in Babylon. We're kind of hemmed in for city sites. I left the other Settler un-moved near Zaragoza in case the next player wants to send it east again.
Odd, I can see Spanish units even in the fog. Is it a debug setting that hasn't been turned off?
Mullah converts Incan XBow
We buy Military Tradition from Germany for 3907 + iron.
We buy Enlightenment from Spain for 3362 + MT
I switch Iron Horse Saloon to Military Academy.
I switch Wonsan to Eastern Cav, due in 1.
Hear me out!
This means that we can rush a Uni from 0 next turn.
Democracy is due in 7.
I don't see any reason to stop building Great Palace in Bagdad, so I leave it be.
IBT:
Pirate ship is the only bombardment that pings one of our guys along the Maghreb coast.
Foot unit forces our wounded horse to retreat
Another one kills him 0-1
WE retreats vs. Leptis Magna
1740 AD, T211:
Cuirassier kills WE near Casablanca 1-1
Eastern Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 2-1
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 3-1
Cuirassier retreats
Cuirassier dies 3-2
Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 4-2
3/4 Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 5-2
3/4 Cannon kills Grenadier 6-2
3/4 Cannon kills Grenadier 7-2
Cuirassier dies to Musketman 7-3
3/4 Cuirassier kills Musketman 8-3
Mullah kills Numidian Mercenary 9-3
Enslaver narrowly dies to Crossbow 9-4
Enslaver retreats
Mullah Master captures Crossbow 10-4
Musketman kills redlined Crossbow 11-4
eCuirassier kills redlined WE near Leptis Magna 12-4
IBT:
Grenadier kills one of our Musketmen. 12-5
Casablanca deposes us, we lose 1 Musket in the city 12-6
Stockholm completes Storm of the North
1745 AD, T212:
Retaking Casablanca:
Hussar dies to Nizam Infantry 12-7
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 13-7
Eastern Cav retreats
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 14-7
~4100 gold
We meet Israel N of Nubia. They're broke, down Economics and Absolutism, but they have Furs for sale.
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier near Mekka, promotes to elite 15-7
I culture-bomb Leptis Magna
Cuirassier kills Grenadier 16-7
Many cities are about to riot, so I up the lux slider to 20%
IBT:
Persia warns us. We apologize.
Maghreb calls us, offering straight peace. They're not willing to part with Democracy in exchange for amnesty, so we keep the war going.
Leptis Magna deposes us. 15-8
Propaganda in Tangier.
1750 AD, T213:
Eastern Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 16-8
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 17-8
Cuirassier dies 17-9
Cuirassier kills Nizam Incan 18-9
Cuirassier kills Nizam Incan 19-9
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 20-9
3/4 Eastern Cannon retreats
3/4 Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 21-9
3/4 Eastern Cannon retreats
3/4 Eastern Cannon narrowly kills Grenadier 22-9
Hussar narrowly kills Grenadier 23-9
Pirate Frigate captures Maghreb War Galleon 24-9
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 25-9
I see that Maghreb now have Arabian Line Infantry, 6-6-1.
We need more troops!
I see that the Spanish deal has expired. I dial them up and declare war!
I lose 1 War Galleon sinking a Merchantman 26-10
I land our troops next to Valladolid.
IBT:
Grenadier kills our hillside Pike next to Casablanca 26-11
1755 AD, T214:
Cuirassier dies to the Grenadier 26-12
Cannon kills the Grenadier 27-12
Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 28-12
Battle of Valladolid:
Cuirassier retreats vs. Spanish Late Pikeman
Cuirassier kills Spanish Late Pikeman 29-12
Cuirassier dies 29-13
Cuirassier kills Crossbow 30-13
Cuirassier kills redlined Spanish Late Pikeman, takes 213 gold, and razes the city! 31-13
Back by Casablanca...Eastern Cannon retreats
Cuirassier dies 31-14
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 32-14
Mullah kills wounded Nizam Infantry 33-14
IBT:
Nubia boots our Explorer
Privateer sinks while attacking our exploring War Galleon near Persian shores
Israel complains about our ship
Maghreb WE kills our Mullah 33-15
Maghreb lands 8 units next to Tangier. I think we're losing the city next turn.
1760 AD, T215:
Battle of Leptis Magna:
Cuirassier dies 33-16
Cuirassier kills Arabian Line Infantry 34-16
Cuirassier retreats
Cuirassier kills Arabian Line Infantry 35-16
Cuirassier kills wounded Arabian Line Infantry 36-16
Cuirassier retreats. City holds, for now.
Eastern Cannon narrowly kills Arabian Line Infantry 37-16
I see that Britain now has Democracy -- no more opportunity for a twofer
IBT:
Maghreb Cannon kills the defender. Tangier falls. 37-17
318 gold lost.
Grenadier murders MDI 37-18
Grenadier forces Cuirassier to retreat
Grenadier forces Cuirassier to retreat
Grenadier kills Cuirassier 37-19
Cannon murders Cuirassier 38-19
Cannon murders Cuirassier 38-20
Ouch
We lost three Cuirassiers in that disaster, and the retreating stack is in complete disarray.South America is working on Code Civil
Dutch got caught planting a spy.
1765 AD, T216:
Huh, we know the Lowlands now. They're a Democracy with 194k gold.
Cannon dies on Grenadier
38-21Grenadier narrowly kills Grenadier on Mekka's mine 39-21
Enslaver captures the redlined Grenadier and nets a Leader! 40-21
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 41-21
I abandon Palma.
IBT:
Persia declares on Russia!
Lowlands offers to sell us Naval Power for 8300 gold. No, thanks. I'd rather make that deal with Germany or Incas.
Incas and Britain sign peace.
Maghreb arty pulverises one of our Eastern Musketeers 41-22
Democracy > Naval Power
Maghreb and Germany are both building Code Civil.
1770 AD, T217:
Our leader rushes Constitution in Wonsan -- only thing available without switching to Democracy first. @JerseyJoe, you were right!
Lawyer kills Numidian Mercenary who landed near Casablanca 42-22
Enslaver captures Warrior, same tile. 43-22
Eastern Cavalry kills Maghreb arty. Odd, I didn't see an attack animation. 44-22
Eastern Cannon kills Maghreb Grenadier 45-22
We meet India. They're backwards and broke (lacking Absolutism and Mercantilism).
Buying Naval Power:
Germany wants 8860.
Britain wants Coal, Horses, and 6580.
Inca wants Horses and 7730.
Lowlands now wants Silver and 8590.
NUBIA DOES NOT KNOW DEMOCRACY!!! WOOHOO!
We make the deal as a straight-up trade. They don't have anything to sweeten the pot, and we don't need to offer anything more than Democracy.
We could buy Napoleonic Age, but it will cost about 10k gold. Plus, we have several cities at the 50-spt sweet spot for Nizam Infantry. I'm going to hold off for now.
IBT:
Germany warns us about our Explorer. We apologize.
War elephant dies vs. our Grenadier 46-22
Arabian Line Infantry narrowly kills the redlined Grenadier 46-23
This was on the mined silver tile - RIP production in Mekka
Casablanca is down to 1 population
We catch Maghreb sabotaging Pusan
1775 AD, T218:
Eastern Cannon retreats from a Grenadier, humiliating.
Eastern Cav kills the Grenadier near Mekka 47-23
Hussar narrowly kills MDI who landed W of Casablanca 48-23
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 49-23
Eastern Cannon kills Grenadier 50-23
Bucket of Sassanid Clibanarii kills enemy Cannon, somewhat sacrificially; we have some Cannons that are otherwise exposed. 51-23
Cuirassier kills Nizam Infantry 52-23
We meet Poland! They're broke and backwards, lacking Free Artistry, Naval Guns, etc.
We also know Aztecs/Mexico (I'm not sure if we knew them before this, but we see one of their units with a naval explorer on the other continent). Also broke and backwards.
Lawyer kills MDI near Casablanca 53-23
IBT:
South America warns us about our Explorer. We apologize.
Maghreb cannon kills our sacrificial cav 53-24
Grenadier kills Sassanid Clibanarii 53-25
Oz completes Sydney Cove.
1780 AD, T219:
Eastern Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 54-25
Eastern Cavalry kills Nizam Infantry 55-25
Eastern Cannon kills Nizam Infantry 56-25
Eastern Cavalry narrowly dies to Arabian Line Infantry 56-26
Eastern Cavalry dies to Arabian Line Infantry 56-27
Eastern Cavalry retreats
Eastern Cannon kills Arabian Line Infantry 57-27
Trading...
Bastion Fortifications to Aztecs for 55 + 72gpt
Naval Power to Persia for Tobacco, 23 + 9gpt
Naval Power to Scandinavia for 26 + 60gpt
Horses to Israel for Furs!
Science slider to 60%, Napoleonic Age still due in 6.
IBT:
USA warns us about our Explorer. We apologize.
Austria-Hungary completes Hofburg.
Dutch are building Crystal Palace. They also complete Code Civil.
1785 AD, T220:
Pirate Frigate sinks attacking Maghreb Paddle Steamer 57-28
Grenadier dies to Arabian Line Infantry, barely 57-29
Lawyer kills the now-redlined Arabian Line Infantry 58-29
The front:
Handoff notes:
The Maghreb war went badly. We're at 30% lux to deal with WW. Losses have been high. I've only barely managed to get any infantry reinforcements to the front as of the end of my turnset. However, now that we have troops en route, we should be able to go on the offensive. I have an attack stack started near Casablanca; it could retake Tangier soon.
Exploring has gone well. Spain is gone. We've met a few new tribes. Research is going reasonably well, too, but we have more to do once we grab the Maghreb lands.
We have a Clan in Babylon. We're kind of hemmed in for city sites. I left the other Settler un-moved near Zaragoza in case the next player wants to send it east again.
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Elephantium, I am not aware of such a bug in CCM 2.50. The effect you have described also is taking place, when the military plans of a civ (in that case Spain) were stolen.
Elephantium
Malcolm was a very good cat.
Ah! Looking back, yes, that's what it was.
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1785 AD (0)
I space bar the settler. For now, it is useless.
I cash rush a bunch of units. After that, I make the revolt to democracy.
I ship USA silver for $90 and $6/T.
(IT) Maghreb was caught trying to plant a spy.
Poland is moving a ton of units. They are probably in a war somewhere.
I killed Maghreb: 1 infantry. (1-0)
I lost: 1 exploring ship and 2 infantry. (1-3)
1790 AD (1)
I’m going to send our empty steamers to explore. There isn’t much reason to keep them for invasions.
Our pirate frigate kills 1 Israel galleasses. (2-3)
I kill Maghreb: 1 paddle wheeler. (3-3)
(IT) Our final government of democracy has arrived.
I lost a pirate. (3-4)
1795 AD (2)
The assault of Tangier begins. I kill 3 infantry and 1 Numidian. I lost 1 cavalry. (7-5)
I gained $5,364.
Tangier Cuirassier arrived during the fight. Medina gets the most expensive rush of an observatory.
The rubber source is finally connected.
I kill Maghreb: 3 Grenadier and 1 cannon. I lost 1 Cuirassier. (11-6)
Migrant workers begin to get built for 10 shields giving a 25% shield boost.
(IT) A unit gets auto-booted by Israel.
Someone’s lawyer kills our explorer. (11-7)
I kill Maghreb: 1 infantry. (12-7)
I lost 1 cavalry. (12-8)
I just spotted a Maghreb adventurer.
I space bar the settler. For now, it is useless.
I cash rush a bunch of units. After that, I make the revolt to democracy.
I ship USA silver for $90 and $6/T.
(IT) Maghreb was caught trying to plant a spy.
Poland is moving a ton of units. They are probably in a war somewhere.
I killed Maghreb: 1 infantry. (1-0)
I lost: 1 exploring ship and 2 infantry. (1-3)
1790 AD (1)
I’m going to send our empty steamers to explore. There isn’t much reason to keep them for invasions.
Our pirate frigate kills 1 Israel galleasses. (2-3)
I kill Maghreb: 1 paddle wheeler. (3-3)
(IT) Our final government of democracy has arrived.
I lost a pirate. (3-4)
1795 AD (2)
The assault of Tangier begins. I kill 3 infantry and 1 Numidian. I lost 1 cavalry. (7-5)
I gained $5,364.
Tangier Cuirassier arrived during the fight. Medina gets the most expensive rush of an observatory.
The rubber source is finally connected.
I kill Maghreb: 3 Grenadier and 1 cannon. I lost 1 Cuirassier. (11-6)
Migrant workers begin to get built for 10 shields giving a 25% shield boost.
(IT) A unit gets auto-booted by Israel.
Someone’s lawyer kills our explorer. (11-7)
I kill Maghreb: 1 infantry. (12-7)
I lost 1 cavalry. (12-8)
I just spotted a Maghreb adventurer.
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1800 AD (3)
The assault of Rabat begins. I kill 2 pikes. (14-8)
I gain $3,810 and 3 workers.
I short rush another block of units. This war needs to end soon, and more troops are the only thing that will do it. IMHO peace would be a disaster, as multiple cities would probably flip.
I give the Inca coal and $3,696 to finish up 6 turns of research on Napoleonic Age. I can’t buy Industrialization yet. I really want railroads to start under construction.
I kill Maghreb: 1 grenadier and 1 cannon. (16-8)
I lost: 1 pirate and 1 cavalry. (16-10)
(IT) A unit gets auto-booted by USA.
I caught the Inca trying to plant a spy.
1802 AD (4)
I short rush another block of cavalry. I will need to gain another Maghreb city soon to keep this up. I burned 1,640 this turn doing it. There is still 8K in the bank, but I also want to buy industrialization soon. I’m trying to get to rails ASAP.
I kill Maghreb: 1 musket and 1 crossbow. (18-10)
(IT) A unit gets auto-booted by Inca.
I caught Britain trying to plant a spy.
The assault of Rabat begins. I kill 2 pikes. (14-8)
I gain $3,810 and 3 workers.
I short rush another block of units. This war needs to end soon, and more troops are the only thing that will do it. IMHO peace would be a disaster, as multiple cities would probably flip.
I give the Inca coal and $3,696 to finish up 6 turns of research on Napoleonic Age. I can’t buy Industrialization yet. I really want railroads to start under construction.
I kill Maghreb: 1 grenadier and 1 cannon. (16-8)
I lost: 1 pirate and 1 cavalry. (16-10)
(IT) A unit gets auto-booted by USA.
I caught the Inca trying to plant a spy.
1802 AD (4)
I short rush another block of cavalry. I will need to gain another Maghreb city soon to keep this up. I burned 1,640 this turn doing it. There is still 8K in the bank, but I also want to buy industrialization soon. I’m trying to get to rails ASAP.
I kill Maghreb: 1 musket and 1 crossbow. (18-10)
(IT) A unit gets auto-booted by Inca.
I caught Britain trying to plant a spy.
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1804 AD (5)
The troops coming back from Spain land by Rabat.
I have to clean up another landing by Rabat.
I hit a Germany worker and enslave it. That is the second worker I’ve done that with near Murcia. (19-10)
The loss of gems really hit our cities. The cash flow also took a bit hit.
I ship bastion fortifications to Mongolia for gems, $20 and $13/T. With the gems back, I only have 2 cities with issues.
I ship Nubia Napoleonic age for $118 and $101/T. That lets me get back to 50% with a small deficit.
Canada, Australia and India don’t have much cash per turn.
I do another round of short rushing units.
The GPT to keep getting Saltpeter from Britain jumps from $215/T to $569/T.
30% science is now negative. The GPT from other civs is pathetically low, so I don’t make any more trades.
I kill Maghreb: 1 musket, 1 musketeer, 1 adventurer , 1 grenadier, 1 cannon, and 1 warrior. I lost 1 infantry. (25-11)
(IT) I killed Maghreb: 1 ship, and 2 infantry. (28-11)
I lost 1 cannon and 1 ship. (28-13)
1806 AD (6)
Capital Eastern Cannon arrives. Want to guess what it will rush? The leader arrives in Mekka and will wait for the town clock to finish in 1 turn.
The assault on Theveste begins. I kill 1 rifle and 3 infantry. I lost 1 cavalry. (32-14)
I gained $6,289 and a supply shipment.
I ship silver to Lowlands for $272.
I give Britain incense and $6936 gold for industrialization. I must thank Carthage for all the gold that is letting us catch up on tech.
6 civilizations have railroad, but we can’t afford it yet.
I switch 2 military cities to factories. One military city switches to dockyards due to the loss of the Spanish wonder. The rest of them continue to short rush cavalry.
I build an embassy with the Dutch. The city is shield weak, with Crystal Palace due in 14 turns.
I investigate Frankfurt. The city is okay for shields, with Crystal Palace due in 10 turns.
I investigate Cuzco. The city is a shield monster with Crystal Palace due in 3 turns.
There is no chance for the free techs from it. With a rushed factory I could probably get in less than 10 turns, but I can’t compete with Cuzco.
I kill Maghreb: 1 adventurer, 2 infantry and 1 grenadier. I lost 1 cavalry. (36-15)
I lost: 1 artillery piece and 2 pirates. (36-16)
[End of session 1]
(IT) A unit gets auto-booted by Turkey.
I caught Maghreb trying to plant a spy.
Someone lost an enslaver trying to attack our explorer. (37-16)
The troops coming back from Spain land by Rabat.
I have to clean up another landing by Rabat.
I hit a Germany worker and enslave it. That is the second worker I’ve done that with near Murcia. (19-10)
The loss of gems really hit our cities. The cash flow also took a bit hit.
I ship bastion fortifications to Mongolia for gems, $20 and $13/T. With the gems back, I only have 2 cities with issues.
I ship Nubia Napoleonic age for $118 and $101/T. That lets me get back to 50% with a small deficit.
Canada, Australia and India don’t have much cash per turn.
I do another round of short rushing units.
The GPT to keep getting Saltpeter from Britain jumps from $215/T to $569/T.
30% science is now negative. The GPT from other civs is pathetically low, so I don’t make any more trades.
I kill Maghreb: 1 musket, 1 musketeer, 1 adventurer , 1 grenadier, 1 cannon, and 1 warrior. I lost 1 infantry. (25-11)
(IT) I killed Maghreb: 1 ship, and 2 infantry. (28-11)
I lost 1 cannon and 1 ship. (28-13)
1806 AD (6)
Capital Eastern Cannon arrives. Want to guess what it will rush? The leader arrives in Mekka and will wait for the town clock to finish in 1 turn.
The assault on Theveste begins. I kill 1 rifle and 3 infantry. I lost 1 cavalry. (32-14)
I gained $6,289 and a supply shipment.
I ship silver to Lowlands for $272.
I give Britain incense and $6936 gold for industrialization. I must thank Carthage for all the gold that is letting us catch up on tech.
6 civilizations have railroad, but we can’t afford it yet.
I switch 2 military cities to factories. One military city switches to dockyards due to the loss of the Spanish wonder. The rest of them continue to short rush cavalry.
I build an embassy with the Dutch. The city is shield weak, with Crystal Palace due in 14 turns.
I investigate Frankfurt. The city is okay for shields, with Crystal Palace due in 10 turns.
I investigate Cuzco. The city is a shield monster with Crystal Palace due in 3 turns.
There is no chance for the free techs from it. With a rushed factory I could probably get in less than 10 turns, but I can’t compete with Cuzco.
I kill Maghreb: 1 adventurer, 2 infantry and 1 grenadier. I lost 1 cavalry. (36-15)
I lost: 1 artillery piece and 2 pirates. (36-16)
[End of session 1]
(IT) A unit gets auto-booted by Turkey.
I caught Maghreb trying to plant a spy.
Someone lost an enslaver trying to attack our explorer. (37-16)
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1808 AD (7)
The leader rushes capitol in Mekka.
The assault on Leptis Magna begins. I kill 2 infantry. (39-16)
I gain $4,478 and 1 worker. It gets an instant culture bomb.
The assault on Marrakesh begins. I kill 1 rifle and 2 infantry. (42-16)
I gain $4,578.
Cavalry hates adventurers arrived. Nampa gets rushed dockyards to start getting value from the ocean again. That is its main source of shields.
I give Britain $9042 and we have rails. Operation Maghreb is doing exactly what I was hoping for. They are doing wonders to finance us catching up in tech.
I pass on another round of rushing. At this point getting explosives for double speed workers and steamrollers is more important.
I kill Maghreb: 1 adventurer. (43-16)
(IT) I have no idea what happened. AI ships attacked Thevest, and killed our infantry. (43-17)
Germany completes the Alamo.
The leader rushes capitol in Mekka.
The assault on Leptis Magna begins. I kill 2 infantry. (39-16)
I gain $4,478 and 1 worker. It gets an instant culture bomb.
The assault on Marrakesh begins. I kill 1 rifle and 2 infantry. (42-16)
I gain $4,578.
Cavalry hates adventurers arrived. Nampa gets rushed dockyards to start getting value from the ocean again. That is its main source of shields.
I give Britain $9042 and we have rails. Operation Maghreb is doing exactly what I was hoping for. They are doing wonders to finance us catching up in tech.
I pass on another round of rushing. At this point getting explosives for double speed workers and steamrollers is more important.
I kill Maghreb: 1 adventurer. (43-16)
(IT) I have no idea what happened. AI ships attacked Thevest, and killed our infantry. (43-17)
Germany completes the Alamo.
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1810 AD (8)
The assault on Al Jadida begins. I kill 2 infantry. I lost 1 cavalry. (45-18)
I gain $5,121 and 3 workers.
I’ve been working on the railroad.
It leaves us low on cash, but I give Britain $7,983 for explosives. I really want rails in place. I didn’t even finish the line infantry upgrade, and now rifles are available.
I give Egypt economics for $82 and $44/T.
The rest of the civs offer so little cash that it isn’t worth the bother.
I’m starting upgrade to better units and heal to make the push into Maghreb core. I have a lot of units that need at least 2 to 3 turns to make the new front.
I gained an artist and 1 monk.
I kill Maghreb: 1 musket, 1 infantry, 1 heavy artillery piece and 1 crossbow. I lost 1 artillery piece. (49-18)
(IT) Britain trips a GA.
Inca completes Crystal Palace.
I lost: 1 exploring ship and 1 cavalry to a lawyer (probably Carthage). (49-20)
The assault on Al Jadida begins. I kill 2 infantry. I lost 1 cavalry. (45-18)
I gain $5,121 and 3 workers.
I’ve been working on the railroad.
It leaves us low on cash, but I give Britain $7,983 for explosives. I really want rails in place. I didn’t even finish the line infantry upgrade, and now rifles are available.
I give Egypt economics for $82 and $44/T.
The rest of the civs offer so little cash that it isn’t worth the bother.
I’m starting upgrade to better units and heal to make the push into Maghreb core. I have a lot of units that need at least 2 to 3 turns to make the new front.
I gained an artist and 1 monk.
I kill Maghreb: 1 musket, 1 infantry, 1 heavy artillery piece and 1 crossbow. I lost 1 artillery piece. (49-18)
(IT) Britain trips a GA.
Inca completes Crystal Palace.
I lost: 1 exploring ship and 1 cavalry to a lawyer (probably Carthage). (49-20)
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1812 AD (9)
I kill that annoying lawyer, and gain another artist. (50-20)
I see my first completed rail tile.
The stack of attack cavalry is building nicely. I’m still waiting on the defensive units. Multiple just upgraded in Mekka.
(IT) The Dutch establish an embassy with us.
I kill that annoying lawyer, and gain another artist. (50-20)
I see my first completed rail tile.
The stack of attack cavalry is building nicely. I’m still waiting on the defensive units. Multiple just upgraded in Mekka.
(IT) The Dutch establish an embassy with us.
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1814 AD (10)
I have my second completed rail tile.
I give the Dutch iron for $2,028. That really improves our current balance of $620. I notice there face changed, so they have entered the next age.
I give Scandinavia Napoleonic Age for $92 and $56/T. Somebody finally had decent GPT to offer.
I give Australia naval power for $75 and $37/T.
I give Persia Napoleonic Age for $40 and $43/T.
I give India absolutism for $16 and $55/T.
I ship Poland free artistry for $3 and $78/T.
All of a sudden multiple civs have enough GPT to make it worth the bother. I wasn’t giving up tech for the pathetic < $20/GPT they were offering for a while.
With this GPT, and the Dutch money I can get science back to 30%.
I have my second completed rail tile.
I give the Dutch iron for $2,028. That really improves our current balance of $620. I notice there face changed, so they have entered the next age.
I give Scandinavia Napoleonic Age for $92 and $56/T. Somebody finally had decent GPT to offer.
I give Australia naval power for $75 and $37/T.
I give Persia Napoleonic Age for $40 and $43/T.
I give India absolutism for $16 and $55/T.
I ship Poland free artistry for $3 and $78/T.
All of a sudden multiple civs have enough GPT to make it worth the bother. I wasn’t giving up tech for the pathetic < $20/GPT they were offering for a while.
With this GPT, and the Dutch money I can get science back to 30%.
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Summary:
Keep starving Maghreb cities. They have settlers out, so we most likely won’t be able to completely eliminate them. We have to plan for peace after taking out there core. I hope to get there nearest city a large distance from Carthage.
I would like to see if it is possible for us to drop a friendly city close to Carthage. We can’t afford to keep paying Britain’s extortion rates for saltpeter.
Our cities in former Spain are really weak for defense. Keep shuttling units to Iron Horse saloon for upgrades, and then back to former Spanish cities.
ROSTER:
LKendter
Jersey Joe (up)
Elephantium (on deck)
Greebley
Restrictions:
You must choose governments: Republic and Democracy. To answer JJ question: Yes, we can delay democracy a few turns if needed due to GA or critical wonder race.
Continents map: Can't take out a civ on another continent. Okay to RAZE cities from a civ that was on OUR landmass anywhere. Okay to claim a small island for resources.
Keep starving Maghreb cities. They have settlers out, so we most likely won’t be able to completely eliminate them. We have to plan for peace after taking out there core. I hope to get there nearest city a large distance from Carthage.
I would like to see if it is possible for us to drop a friendly city close to Carthage. We can’t afford to keep paying Britain’s extortion rates for saltpeter.
Our cities in former Spain are really weak for defense. Keep shuttling units to Iron Horse saloon for upgrades, and then back to former Spanish cities.
ROSTER:
LKendter
Jersey Joe (up)
Elephantium (on deck)
Greebley
Restrictions:
You must choose governments: Republic and Democracy. To answer JJ question: Yes, we can delay democracy a few turns if needed due to GA or critical wonder race.
Continents map: Can't take out a civ on another continent. Okay to RAZE cities from a civ that was on OUR landmass anywhere. Okay to claim a small island for resources.
Great Progress 
Glad you just did all that trading.
I rarely think I do a good job at trading, so you saved me from trades for a few turns at least.
I got it. Since it is 1814, and not at war with the USA, I guess I will take a little trip to Oran not New Orleans.
Glad you just did all that trading.
I rarely think I do a good job at trading, so you saved me from trades for a few turns at least.I got it. Since it is 1814, and not at war with the USA, I guess I will take a little trip to Oran not New Orleans.
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