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Mowque

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I am looking for people with extensive knowledge in several areas (which will be listed later) to help with a alternative history time line. It will be posted on the site (among other places). Basically I'm looking for people who know a lot of certain subject that I am woefully ignorant. I'm a student humbly looking for a teacher. Basically this thread is so I can find you. All information exchange will occur OUT of this thread (via, PM, MSN, E-mail..whatever you prefer) (on a one-on-one- basis). So, feel free to offer your talents/interests/personal experiences whatever. leave whatever contact info you want here.

Nuclear Weapons Programs (preferably second rate ones like the S. African or Brazil projects)

International Banking

Art/Philosophy/Architecture (ie, how history has effected these fields, Post 1900)

German/ French Colonial Practices

Recreational Drug Laws (past, present and future)

Computing (history AND present)

Epidemics

Industrial Fishing

Eco-Tourism

S. African History

International Shipping

Stock Market (past, present, and future)

Desalinization


Last Note- PLEASE don't spam this up. I really want to tap into OT's knowledge. If you have nothing relevant to say, don't say anything. Thanks :)
 
My advice would be to tap into your local library's knowledge rather than CFC OT's.
 
My advice would be to tap into your local library's knowledge rather than CFC OT's.

Doing that too :) . I like the human touch as well.
 
In relation to art/ architecture, what period(s) are you interested in?

1900- to present. Sorry for the oversight
 
I suppose I should direct you to the places I know of:

The Nesing forum has a lot of players and a lot of people intrested in alternative timelines, quite a bit of 'expertise' (knowledge) collected there.NES Forum

you can also try these message boards: Alternative History Discussion Board

As is, I can field general questions, and I may or may not know the answer; although mostly military theory and some historical overviews would be my main subjects.
 
My advice would be to tap into your local library's knowledge rather than CFC OT's.

Mine too.

I know almost nothing about any of that, and I don't think many CFC patrons are that up on specific history. Try the history forum anyway.
 
I have some knowledge of the South African and Indian nuclear programs (the Vela Incident being on my birthday and all :p) and an idea about the antics of one A. Q. Khan.
 
Mine too.

I know almost nothing about any of that, and I don't think many CFC patrons are that up on specific history. Try the history forum anyway.

They may be good to ask where to start.
 
A bunch of those aren't history

Did I say, don't try the OT just the history forum, I've said there might not be that many people here, why not try the history section? It was a suggestion.
 
Eco-Tourism
S. African History

I might be able to talk to these - depending on the question and level of detail. Feel free to PM me with specifics.
 
Recreational Drug Laws (past, present and future)

Computing (history AND present)

Epidemics


I'll sign up for these three, especially epidemics, on the condition that this is a non-profit endeavor.
 
Mowque said:
Thanks for your help. Epidemics you say?. Ok,mostly i want to know exactly what factors increase/decrease rate of transmission among the populace. Not biological but societal, governmental,economic.

Very dependent upon the disease, since the vector that transmits the disease is usually an organism with a set of conditions on how it survives. You can't absolutely divorce biology from the question, and do a serious modeling at the same time. E.g. check out this game simulation Pandemic 2. http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/Pandemic-2.html

In terms of social issues---social contact habits will increase or decrease the chances of spreading some vectors. E.g. A sexually-transmitted vector is more likely to spread in a promiscious society. E.g. A culture that has lots of close physical contacts--hugging/kissing/etc.. may have a higher chance of spreading a respiratory or mucusal membrane vector. E.G. Ebola was spead in some cases due to graveside rituals where the living hugged the dead. E.g. Cannibalism might expose individuals to infected tissues that they wouldn't get exposed to normally.

In terms of government----mainly embracing policies of segregation of patients (quarantine) can help stop the spread of some diseases. Especially when apropriate physical barriers are used. Public education by the government might make inroads against social behaviors that increase the transmission of vectors. Centralized government initiatives can also improve the infrastructure faster than the natural economic market can, in some cases; Improving infrastructure (e.g. creating separate public sewage and garbage lines way from food and water lines, sanitizing sewage and garbage) can prevent some vector transmissions.
Obviously a government could also have a consipiracy to do the opposite.

Economics would mostly play a role to the extent that government doesn't play a role. If there is poverty in society and government, then obviously there will be minimal means of pre-empting transmission vectors. If a society is wealthy, it's free market may have some role in preventing disease transmission; A decent free market could respond to epidemic issues, especially if they become periodic/seasonal events. I wouldn't trust a free market to prepare for infrequent emergencies however; Inadequate capacity would probably be the result of epidemic emergency testing a free market (e.g. people trying to buy out antibiotics during the 2001 anthrax scare). And still there are shortfalls even with preventing seasonal illness (e.g. occasional scarcity of vaccine supplies for flu).

Poverty, the flipside, would likely encourage disease spread, especially if a poor society embraces it's low standards of infrastructure and population growth continues unchecked. That's not to say immunity can't evolve over time, and periodic epidemics, but an emergent disease would probably enjoy rapid spread in a highly populated, poor society with poor infrastructure. A poor society that survived regular epidemics of a disease might have such a large population of immune/resistant peoples, that it might create 'herd immunity' situations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity, where vulnerable peoples are socially isolated from a disease thanks to a large number of immune peoples; That situation would inhibit disease transmission.

Edit: In terms of things people could buy in market to aid themselves: a. prophylactics, b. vaccines, c. symptom cures. There might also be an issue of partially functional folk cures, and even harmful 'remedies'. The first two would affect the spread of transmission of a disease, while an odd folk cure might actually randomally spread disease.

Edit Edit: Also forgot to mention War. File it under Society and Government, and classically War is a major source of the spread of disease. Not necessarily from biological warfare, or wounding, but from forcing large numbers of people to live together under poor infrastructure conditions.

Edit Edit Edit: And you might also get into zoonotic diseases, like Jared Diamond. But that'd probably be beyond the scope of an ATL for the near future.
 
I think you'll find it interesting that a highly lethal infectious disease loses its potency as it spreads, since only the less lethal variations of the virus can spread their genes, with the more lethal ones killing off their hosts too quickly. That's probably the only tidbit of knowledge I can offer to this.
 
I think you'll find it interesting that a highly lethal infectious disease loses its potency as it spreads, since only the less lethal variations of the virus can spread their genes, with the more lethal ones killing off their hosts too quickly. That's probably the only tidbit of knowledge I can offer to this.

In theory a disease that kills its host is self-limiting, and will eventually evolve to a less pathological form. It's not guaranteed that every emergent disease would behave so well though, especially if the emergence is due to species jumping.
 
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