Looking for suggestions on optimal game set-up...

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by bovinespy, Sep 25, 2006.

  1. bovinespy

    bovinespy Prince

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    Hi all. I've been dilly-dallying with Warlords for a few weeks now (now that I've broken free of my Football Manager obsession:blush: :mischief: ), but I'd like to now get down to business and do some serious Civving!

    To that end, my goal is to play (and win) with every leader once on Prince level. I'd gotten fairly comfortable with Prince level on Vanilla Civ4, and was starting to make the transition to Monarch, but since I'm not intimately familiar with all the gameplay differences (subtle and not-so-subtle) in Warlords, I figure I'd better stay on Prince for now. I also usually play on Epic speed, so I'll keep that the same, too.

    Now for the tricky part - where I need your suggestions - choosing a map to play on!:confused: :sad:
    I would like to pick one set-up (Continents/Fractal/Pangea, High/Medium/Low Sea Level, # of AI Civs, etc.) and stick with it for EACH game (just the set-up, though - not the actual map). The thing is, I'd like to pick an optimal set-up that provides a BALANCED opportunity for each given Civ, whether builder, warmonger, religious, GP-based, or whatever. That way, I could hopefully get some kind of sense of the real strengths and weaknesses of each Leader/Civ, without being unduly biased by having a strongly favorable/unfavorable set-up. For example, if I went with Custom Continents 1-Civ-per-Continent, I'd probably wind up thinking that Wang Kon or Mehmed II were the best, seeing as they'd be able to build in splendid isolation. Conversely, on a Pangea start, I'd probably think that Julius Caesar or Genghis Khan were tops.

    Basically, I'm looking for the most BALANCED playing field that doesn't advantage building versus fighting or spreading religion or popping GP's, because I'd like to try my hand at really playing different styles based on my chosen Leader/Civ, and don't want to get locked into a situation where I find myself, for example, going for the (boring) Space Race every time just because it's the most efficient path to victory.

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. flamingzaroc121

    flamingzaroc121 Emperor

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    id go with fractal, because you dont know what your place is like so you have to do a little bit of everything until youve really explored
     
  3. bovinespy

    bovinespy Prince

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    Thanks for the reply! What about sea level, # of AI civs, etc.?
     
  4. kettyo

    kettyo Seeker of Reality

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    If you have fast enough computer and at least 1 GB RAM play with 18 civs on a Huge map.
    This will cause the most religious (most importantly holy city) distribution among the civs which causes a lot of conflicts and wars which makes an enjoyable game.
    It's boring when a whole continent shares the same religion and forges in unity :)
    In this case i suggest playing at epic speed to have enough time to move your troops in the big map before new advances come / new things are built.

    I have 2 Ghz Centrino and 1 GB RAM it's OK with medium graphics but i have to shut down every programs, processes, and services which are unimportant to free up the most memory for the game on huge map.
    I can get 720MB free after shutting everything down (against the ca. 520 before) and this is enough for fluid (non-swapping) game.
     
  5. Meatbuster

    Meatbuster formerly Robo Kai

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    14 Civ large pangaea or fractal or great plains is usually good enough to have enough religious violence to go around, if your comp can't handle huge.

    Custom Continents "2" is like playing on Pangaea where you have to destroy everyone on your home continent but then move on to the next.

    If you want a longer game, Low sea level will make it harder to trigger domination due to more land. Usually tends to be overcrowded in High sea level though.

    As for strategy balance, here's what I think:
    Tropical climate favors specialists
    Arid and Rocky climates favor builders
    Island maps favor financial types
    Continents, Wheel maps favors cultural, UN and space
    Fractal, Pangaea and other single landmass maps favor war and UN

    Just play different map types, I suppose it will be more fun that way, and you can adapt to the map based on whomever random leader you get. Or better yet, how about playing a nonoptimal leader for a certain map? Like say, Wang Kon or Mehmed or Gandhi on Pangaea, or Julius Caesar on Archipelago?
     
  6. Sandman2012

    Sandman2012 Chieftain

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    I really like this idea, bovinespy. I'm just starting to play at Prince level, and this will be a nice way to let me know how my skills are improving as well as helping me to learn strateegies for civs I normally wouldn't play.
     
  7. bovinespy

    bovinespy Prince

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    Thanks for the support, man! :wavey: After doing a little more research in the Strategy Articles section, I've decided that my 'baseline' will be:

    Fractal/Large/Epic/11 AI (12 player total)/all other defaults

    So far, playing Vanilla, I've usually picked my leader manually. But since I'm trying to get some kind of baseline 'feel' for each Leader/Civ, this time I'll take the plunge and go Random.:eek: :scared: ;)
     
  8. flamingzaroc121

    flamingzaroc121 Emperor

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    cool then you'll really have to prepare a balanced strategy awesome:goodjob:
     
  9. InFlux5

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    A Fractal map with high sea level is my personal favorite (followed by Terra, medium sea level.) I prefer things to be crowded, as it keeps things interesting. If there's one thing I hate it's exploring my surroundings and not finding anyone for 30 turns. Terra is very crowded though - and very predictable. So overall I like Fractal.

    That said, you will sometimes start on an island with Fractal. If you play Small, like I do, that's not a problem; you can usually still make contact with others. But on larger maps there may be lots of ocean in between, which makes for a somewhat boring game. I play Small maps because I don't want my games to last forever.

    So for a fast, interesting, exciting game I go for Small Fractal, high sea level. I also like to go into Custom Game and add another civ to a small map. (In that case I would put the sea level back to medium.)
     

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