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Loyalty flipping not working?

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Arraz, Aug 18, 2019.

  1. Arraz

    Arraz Chieftain

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    Hello,
    I ve had an issue when I tried to flip cities without using loyalty pressure.
    That was in 2 attempts and never was it a big issue but now I m trying Mapuche and am a bit worried about that.

    First attempt was As Eleanor against Persia.
    He had a city with -7 loyalty per turn and I wanted to speed up the flipping so I sent a spy to foment unrest (-35). At the end of the mission, the city had 0 loyalty (17 one turn before) but I had to wait for another turn (with pop pressure) to get it.

    Second attempt was as Russia while attempting a cultural victory.
    I got two indie rockbands and sent them directly to the chinese capital hoping to make it a free city.
    Both performed at the same turn.
    The city ended up at 0 loyalty but didnt become a free city.

    These two experiences were both in the last week and are directly opposed to what I read online in april.

    I checked the June update but there wasnt any mention of that.

    Anyway the question is whether it affects Mapuche's ability to flip cities?
    Killing 5 units in the ennemy territory used to be enough to flip a city even without loyalty pressure.
     
  2. Victoria

    Victoria Regina Supporter

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    Weird and unnatural. Have you any mods installed?
     
  3. Arraz

    Arraz Chieftain

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    Yes I do but none of them is supposed to influence loyalty :
    Perfect world
    Real strategy (AI mod)
    Vibrant water (makes lakes more blue)
    Smoother difficulty (AI gets science/culture advantages instead of the early settlers/warriors army)
     
  4. Pietato

    Pietato Warlord

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    I just used Indie Bands a few hours ago, so this is on your end. The city should flip the turn after loyalty is reduced to 0.
     
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  5. Victoria

    Victoria Regina Supporter

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    To avoid confusion and to clarify. Flipping is an end of turn assessment but that can also be considered start of turn but regardless let’s call it between turns.
    You end your turn and first it assesses if you are at 0 and then flips you.
    If you are not at 0 it then adds or subtracts loyalty before you start next turn.
    Apologies if it seems pedantic but it can lead to confusion at times.
    ... and tx for the validation @Pietato
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2019
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