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So the idea for this thread is to make it sort of political and cultural fmylife. To share emarassing and funny stories from your country showing how corrupted or dumb some people in it, especially politicians, are. It is also sort of a consolation thread for the British that though they have all the Brexiteers scrambling for EU passports etc, a great contract for sea transport won by a company with 0 ferries, UK minister threatening China with mighty British navy carriers and using hard force, or May shouting a second referendum would be unfair because there was already a vote on it, while trying to present her deal to the parliament for the fourth time... well, you are not alone. These should be real stories.
I will kick it off.
So, our ruler hates the most mr Tusk, who is ex-prime minister, and, currently, one of the leaders of the European Union. He hates him to the extent that when there was a voting on extending his office, ALL the countries of EU voted for it. Apart from his own country - Poland.
It would be enough on its own, but there's more. So, after the "Law&Justice" started ruling Poland, they turned the state tv into its propaganda machine in which stuff as presenting Tusk with the images of Hitler and Stalin in the background is nothing special. Recently, a Belgian journalist appeared in it, saying what L&J was telling about Tusk all along. That he's the puppet of Germany etc. He spoke in French. It was, however, discovered that he is in fact half-Polish and speaks perfect Polish. He lives in Poland. He works for the state tv and is a far right-winger.
Law&Justice hates Owsiak, who is reknown mostly for a rock festival and for a great charity event. They hate him not only so much that they presented him as a toy of the liberal party giving them almost all of the money, but they went as far as removing by computer edition the image of his charity's sticker from the suit of the opposition politician.
Law&Justice commonly mentions that the liberal party wins in prisons. But they perhaps envied them. And during these elections it turned out that in one place, the menatally handicapped people were being brought to participate in the voting, with strips of paper with the name of L&J candidates they should vote on. But they didn't quite understand what they should do, so this was revealed.
Law&Justice was created to fight corruption. So it's funny to see how corrupted it became. One of greatest symbol of it is a situation in Lower Silesia. As the party gave its members and supporters unprecedented number of offices of the state, state companies etc, also local Red Cross received a new, L&J leader. He then proceeded, with his friend, to manage the clothes and food gathered for the poor. Namely, he sold the clothes and used the money for L&J campaign. And used the apples (this is less sure) by distributing them during L&J campaign too.
Law&Justice is extremly anti-communist, lowering rents for anyone in communist forces or changing by law the street names from anyone who was involved in communism in a way (even reknown writers) to, you guessed it, L&J politicians, or other right-wingers. But one of their most reknown MPs was actually a communist prosecutor charging oppositionists, the personal secretary used to be a secretary of one of the generals of the communist junta (who, by chance, was the only one not prosecuted later on), another close associate of L&J leader turned out to have been a communist secret police spy etc.
Law&Justice's most importand boast is that it gave 500 złoty for each child after the first one (they call it 500+). It boasts with it in a remarkable style. When the only ex-prime minister (apart from the leader of L&J) whom they supported died, they remembered him with words "without him, 500+ wouldn't be possible". When the teachers demanded more money, one of L&W replied that they can have children and get 500+. Yes, he did. L&J also distributed a 13th pension for the elderly just before the elections, or tried to use EU subsidies to give free money based on the number of pigs and cows.
Law&Justice loves traditional family values and hates LGBT. Still, people make fun of the ex-minister of defense, who has a tendency to chose his associates from very young guys with no job experience. One of them was kept in office for a long time even though he was using state cars for going to the disco, threatening MD officials to throw them out because he had a tooth ache, etc. What brought him down completely was only when he tried to get money from influencing MD tenders.
That didn't stop another prominent L&J politician. His godson became an official in a wealthy copper company. He was influencing tenders to the detriment of the company. he was not fired. The guy who reported that, however, didn't have his contract extended. But then, his godfather once tried to bribe MPs into supporting his goverment, which was caught on tape, and was never punished.
During previous L&J rules, it allied itself with a populist rural politician Lepper. When asked how he could have allied himself with such a unstatemanly guy, Kaczyński actually said "uh, but we've sent people to spy on him from the start". The coalition ended when it turned out Kaczyński tried to frame Lepper into corruption affair and take over his party. They also tried to frame popular ex-president, by buying a villa and offering it to him. But he didn't accept, and thus Poland was left with an useless villa. Still better than the most recent affair in the special anti-corruption unit, when milions of złoty that were supposed to be a decoy disappeared and, well, no-one knows who took them.
A little scandal arose when it turned out that two close aids of the (L&J) president of national bank are two ondulated women, one with experience not meeting requirements. She has no banking or economical background. She studied Russian literature. And earns more than Putin.
It's not a reknown politician, but the lady (of L&J) who scored the biggest success in European elections in my region is also the one who argued FOR introduction of Euro on TV before she remembered she was supposed to say something opposite. But, as Kaczyński (the leader of L&J) once said, "no cries will ever make us say that black is black and white is white".
I like the other mistake of this lady more. She shared this photo saying "I am writing to you (oh my voters)"
So not only is she not using a computer, but an old writing machine, but she forgot one needs to put paper in it.
During negotiations over EU voting power, our president from L&J actually said Poland should get more votes, because, if it wasn't for Germany and ww2, we would have much bigger population.
Poland had historically excellent relations with Iran. But it tries to please USA and, for the sake of it, Israel, so much that it agreed to organise a conference on iran without inviting Iran. And then our USA and Israeli guest actually attacked Poland verbally demanding money, during this conference and after. Because they believe Jewish organisations should get the properties that Polish Jews had and which had no inheritors because Germany killed them all during Holocaust.
Poland also organised a conference on global warming, in the centre of local coal mining industry. And our president actually said that we're going to use coal for 200 more years. Poland thus deservingly got the award for being the biggest obstacle in fighting global warming. So once again, we organised a conference to be offended. But this time deservingly.
Our current president before EU elections said that anyone against our membership in EU is this and that and we should write this membership in the consitution. This coming from the person who a bit earlier called EU "the make-believe community that does not do much for Poles" and removed its flag from the presidential palace. Which came from the person who was chosen as a candidate for the president due to his appraised work as MEP.
Right now L&J hates Muslims and scared people with Muslim refugees. Strangely enough not many years before L&J was in avangarde of demanding that we open our borders for Muslim refugees. From Chechnya. Just because it would piss Russia off.
Ryszard Czarnecki, currently a Polish MEP, had great fun pointing the full, not quite Polish, name of other MEP, Róża Thun, as, because of marrying a German aristocrat, it is Róża Graefin von Thun und Hohenstein. But it turned out that, due to being born outside Poland, he had to write his name in the election papers in original spelling too: Not Ryszard Henryk, but Richard Henry.
But then, it's not only L&J politicians that did stupid things.
One of our best PMs, Cimoszewicz, once made a state visit to Kazakhstan. But he got things wrong and on the airport, he visited the high Kazakh officials saying how much he enjoys visiting Tatarstan. Then he did it again, on Kazakh tv. Live. He also made some horrible decisions such as telling flood victims they should have insured themselves (just before elections) or openly admitting Poland joined Iraq war for oil. Which we didn't get anyway.
The leader of the biggest Polish trade union organisation, Spychalska, became an embassador in Belarus later on. She expressed joy at going to "the land between Bug and Oder". The land between these rivers is actually Poland.
The anti-semitic events in 1968 were started by Gomułka. His wive was Jewish, and his son half-Jewish. He was also the guy who ranted at city-dwellers as complaining about lack of coal while he, in his youth, used to gather wood in the forest. And when people complained about lack of lemons (used mostly for tea) he said they can use sauerkraut instead.
One Polish minister of culture during an poetic exhibition dedicated to one poet called for her to stop being so silent and appear and present new poems. She was dead.
Our ex-PM destroyed the socialist and thus contrubuted to L&J success twice. You have to understand he is a sexist guy who, when his grand-daughter declared she's a bi, said "no, she's normal", or praised his minister's breast etc. So he chose as the presidential candidate a lady whose only plus side was her looks, as she's really gorgeous. He did that against the rules and will of the party. But her jobs turned out to be apprenticeships, her PhD turned out to be a farce. They didn't let her even speak at first, and when she did it became even worse. She started distancing herself from the party and now she's a full-fledged right-winger supporting L&J.
Our liberal PM Kopacz famously described the benefits of team work by saying that cavemen would throw rocks at dinosaurs together until they were dead. Sort of as if a doctor and PM believed Flinstones were real.
And a trivia. There is an ongoing scandal of paedofilia cases amongst the clergy. This is not quite paedofilia, because age limit is 15 here, but one priest tried to molest a 15 year old boy several times, but he declined. Angry and jealous, especially after he had a girlfriend, he started writing to the parents of this girlfriend and to the principal of the school he taught religion in warning them against how bad the boy was, and spends too much with shady people like... himself, implying he's his lover. And it was this letter that led to his arrest. The boy didn't inform anyone because, apart from the molestation thing, he liked him, and the parents would rather keep it quiet. it is not politics, but part of an ongoing political debate and an example of grand stupidity.
So the idea for this thread is to make it sort of political and cultural fmylife. To share emarassing and funny stories from your country showing how corrupted or dumb some people in it, especially politicians, are. It is also sort of a consolation thread for the British that though they have all the Brexiteers scrambling for EU passports etc, a great contract for sea transport won by a company with 0 ferries, UK minister threatening China with mighty British navy carriers and using hard force, or May shouting a second referendum would be unfair because there was already a vote on it, while trying to present her deal to the parliament for the fourth time... well, you are not alone. These should be real stories.
I will kick it off.
So, our ruler hates the most mr Tusk, who is ex-prime minister, and, currently, one of the leaders of the European Union. He hates him to the extent that when there was a voting on extending his office, ALL the countries of EU voted for it. Apart from his own country - Poland.
It would be enough on its own, but there's more. So, after the "Law&Justice" started ruling Poland, they turned the state tv into its propaganda machine in which stuff as presenting Tusk with the images of Hitler and Stalin in the background is nothing special. Recently, a Belgian journalist appeared in it, saying what L&J was telling about Tusk all along. That he's the puppet of Germany etc. He spoke in French. It was, however, discovered that he is in fact half-Polish and speaks perfect Polish. He lives in Poland. He works for the state tv and is a far right-winger.
Law&Justice hates Owsiak, who is reknown mostly for a rock festival and for a great charity event. They hate him not only so much that they presented him as a toy of the liberal party giving them almost all of the money, but they went as far as removing by computer edition the image of his charity's sticker from the suit of the opposition politician.
Law&Justice commonly mentions that the liberal party wins in prisons. But they perhaps envied them. And during these elections it turned out that in one place, the menatally handicapped people were being brought to participate in the voting, with strips of paper with the name of L&J candidates they should vote on. But they didn't quite understand what they should do, so this was revealed.
Law&Justice was created to fight corruption. So it's funny to see how corrupted it became. One of greatest symbol of it is a situation in Lower Silesia. As the party gave its members and supporters unprecedented number of offices of the state, state companies etc, also local Red Cross received a new, L&J leader. He then proceeded, with his friend, to manage the clothes and food gathered for the poor. Namely, he sold the clothes and used the money for L&J campaign. And used the apples (this is less sure) by distributing them during L&J campaign too.
Law&Justice is extremly anti-communist, lowering rents for anyone in communist forces or changing by law the street names from anyone who was involved in communism in a way (even reknown writers) to, you guessed it, L&J politicians, or other right-wingers. But one of their most reknown MPs was actually a communist prosecutor charging oppositionists, the personal secretary used to be a secretary of one of the generals of the communist junta (who, by chance, was the only one not prosecuted later on), another close associate of L&J leader turned out to have been a communist secret police spy etc.
Law&Justice's most importand boast is that it gave 500 złoty for each child after the first one (they call it 500+). It boasts with it in a remarkable style. When the only ex-prime minister (apart from the leader of L&J) whom they supported died, they remembered him with words "without him, 500+ wouldn't be possible". When the teachers demanded more money, one of L&W replied that they can have children and get 500+. Yes, he did. L&J also distributed a 13th pension for the elderly just before the elections, or tried to use EU subsidies to give free money based on the number of pigs and cows.
Law&Justice loves traditional family values and hates LGBT. Still, people make fun of the ex-minister of defense, who has a tendency to chose his associates from very young guys with no job experience. One of them was kept in office for a long time even though he was using state cars for going to the disco, threatening MD officials to throw them out because he had a tooth ache, etc. What brought him down completely was only when he tried to get money from influencing MD tenders.
That didn't stop another prominent L&J politician. His godson became an official in a wealthy copper company. He was influencing tenders to the detriment of the company. he was not fired. The guy who reported that, however, didn't have his contract extended. But then, his godfather once tried to bribe MPs into supporting his goverment, which was caught on tape, and was never punished.
During previous L&J rules, it allied itself with a populist rural politician Lepper. When asked how he could have allied himself with such a unstatemanly guy, Kaczyński actually said "uh, but we've sent people to spy on him from the start". The coalition ended when it turned out Kaczyński tried to frame Lepper into corruption affair and take over his party. They also tried to frame popular ex-president, by buying a villa and offering it to him. But he didn't accept, and thus Poland was left with an useless villa. Still better than the most recent affair in the special anti-corruption unit, when milions of złoty that were supposed to be a decoy disappeared and, well, no-one knows who took them.
A little scandal arose when it turned out that two close aids of the (L&J) president of national bank are two ondulated women, one with experience not meeting requirements. She has no banking or economical background. She studied Russian literature. And earns more than Putin.
It's not a reknown politician, but the lady (of L&J) who scored the biggest success in European elections in my region is also the one who argued FOR introduction of Euro on TV before she remembered she was supposed to say something opposite. But, as Kaczyński (the leader of L&J) once said, "no cries will ever make us say that black is black and white is white".
I like the other mistake of this lady more. She shared this photo saying "I am writing to you (oh my voters)"
So not only is she not using a computer, but an old writing machine, but she forgot one needs to put paper in it.
During negotiations over EU voting power, our president from L&J actually said Poland should get more votes, because, if it wasn't for Germany and ww2, we would have much bigger population.
Poland had historically excellent relations with Iran. But it tries to please USA and, for the sake of it, Israel, so much that it agreed to organise a conference on iran without inviting Iran. And then our USA and Israeli guest actually attacked Poland verbally demanding money, during this conference and after. Because they believe Jewish organisations should get the properties that Polish Jews had and which had no inheritors because Germany killed them all during Holocaust.
Poland also organised a conference on global warming, in the centre of local coal mining industry. And our president actually said that we're going to use coal for 200 more years. Poland thus deservingly got the award for being the biggest obstacle in fighting global warming. So once again, we organised a conference to be offended. But this time deservingly.
Our current president before EU elections said that anyone against our membership in EU is this and that and we should write this membership in the consitution. This coming from the person who a bit earlier called EU "the make-believe community that does not do much for Poles" and removed its flag from the presidential palace. Which came from the person who was chosen as a candidate for the president due to his appraised work as MEP.
Right now L&J hates Muslims and scared people with Muslim refugees. Strangely enough not many years before L&J was in avangarde of demanding that we open our borders for Muslim refugees. From Chechnya. Just because it would piss Russia off.
Ryszard Czarnecki, currently a Polish MEP, had great fun pointing the full, not quite Polish, name of other MEP, Róża Thun, as, because of marrying a German aristocrat, it is Róża Graefin von Thun und Hohenstein. But it turned out that, due to being born outside Poland, he had to write his name in the election papers in original spelling too: Not Ryszard Henryk, but Richard Henry.
But then, it's not only L&J politicians that did stupid things.
One of our best PMs, Cimoszewicz, once made a state visit to Kazakhstan. But he got things wrong and on the airport, he visited the high Kazakh officials saying how much he enjoys visiting Tatarstan. Then he did it again, on Kazakh tv. Live. He also made some horrible decisions such as telling flood victims they should have insured themselves (just before elections) or openly admitting Poland joined Iraq war for oil. Which we didn't get anyway.
The leader of the biggest Polish trade union organisation, Spychalska, became an embassador in Belarus later on. She expressed joy at going to "the land between Bug and Oder". The land between these rivers is actually Poland.
The anti-semitic events in 1968 were started by Gomułka. His wive was Jewish, and his son half-Jewish. He was also the guy who ranted at city-dwellers as complaining about lack of coal while he, in his youth, used to gather wood in the forest. And when people complained about lack of lemons (used mostly for tea) he said they can use sauerkraut instead.
One Polish minister of culture during an poetic exhibition dedicated to one poet called for her to stop being so silent and appear and present new poems. She was dead.
Our ex-PM destroyed the socialist and thus contrubuted to L&J success twice. You have to understand he is a sexist guy who, when his grand-daughter declared she's a bi, said "no, she's normal", or praised his minister's breast etc. So he chose as the presidential candidate a lady whose only plus side was her looks, as she's really gorgeous. He did that against the rules and will of the party. But her jobs turned out to be apprenticeships, her PhD turned out to be a farce. They didn't let her even speak at first, and when she did it became even worse. She started distancing herself from the party and now she's a full-fledged right-winger supporting L&J.
Our liberal PM Kopacz famously described the benefits of team work by saying that cavemen would throw rocks at dinosaurs together until they were dead. Sort of as if a doctor and PM believed Flinstones were real.
And a trivia. There is an ongoing scandal of paedofilia cases amongst the clergy. This is not quite paedofilia, because age limit is 15 here, but one priest tried to molest a 15 year old boy several times, but he declined. Angry and jealous, especially after he had a girlfriend, he started writing to the parents of this girlfriend and to the principal of the school he taught religion in warning them against how bad the boy was, and spends too much with shady people like... himself, implying he's his lover. And it was this letter that led to his arrest. The boy didn't inform anyone because, apart from the molestation thing, he liked him, and the parents would rather keep it quiet. it is not politics, but part of an ongoing political debate and an example of grand stupidity.
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