Major terror attacks vs. Israelis in Sinai

[HamaticBabylon]

Well I can see it a normal day in Israel, I’m getting annoyed by this continuing reluctants of the U.N and powerful America to step in permanently and end this madness once and for all!

 

[The Last Conformist]

Well I can see it a normal day in Israel, I’m getting annoyed by this continuing reluctants of the U.N and powerful America to step in permanently and end this madness once and for all!

I think it would be better for all concerned if you didn't take the trouble to explain what the heck that's meant to mean.

 

[HamaticBabylon]

What do you mean dude? I thought I was clear...getting the U.N and powerful Countries like American to stop these two sides form killing each other!

 

[The Last Conformist]

Clear like opaque glass. The reading that immediately suggested itself to me was that the world should do something about normal life continuing in Israel.

 

[amadeus]

I didn't even know Egypt allowed Israelis in. I thought it was one of those things where "you stay in your yard, I'll keep to mine...but my dog (the PLO) will occasionally leave a present on your doorstep."

 

[G-Man]

Then you're a cold bastard who thinks in numbers.

Actually I have a slightly higher than normal body temperature

Normal people are more effected by the type of threat than of it's absolute magnitude (which is often hard to make intelligible anyway).

I still don't see any significant difference in the effect it has on people.

 

[G-Man]

Well I can see it a normal day in Israel, I’m getting annoyed by this continuing reluctants of the U.N and powerful America to step in permanently and end this madness once and for all!

There's no indication that this attack has anything to do with the Israeli Palestinian conflict, and there's nothing that the UN or the US can do in order to stop the conflict. (with the exception of the US using its nuclear arsenal, but that's not the end we seek).

 

[amadeus]

The UN was the one who started the problem in the first place by treating the PLO as a "government in exile" rather than what it really is - a KGB-backed terrorist organization.

 

[The Last Conformist]

KGB-backed? Actually, the Cold War has ended.

Edit: Unless you're thinking of the Belarussian KGB; they're still around. I'm sure they've got nothing better to do than interfering in Israel/Palestine.

 

[amadeus]

The KGB, the Stasi, and Romanian intelligence from the 60's until the collapse of the USSR. The PLO has diversified it's holdings since then away from the communists.

 

[The Last Conformist]

You used the present tense - neither the Stasi, Securitate, nor the (Soviet) KGB are still around.

 

[amadeus]

I know I did, I meant it that the PLO is still a terrorist organization, not that the KGB, Stasi, or DIE (which was Romania's foreign intellignece, the Securitate was domestic.)

 

[boogaboo]

I didn't even know Egypt allowed Israelis in. I thought it was one of those things where "you stay in your yard, I'll keep to mine...but my dog (the PLO) will occasionally leave a present on your doorstep."

That's how it seems, but just because no sane Israeli would travel to Cairo for leisure..
Again, Sinai has mostly Beduin, some druz population, who don't usually hate us at all, nor really care about the conflict or the country they're in.
Just let them move the tent a few hundred miles that way in winter..

 

[Elgalad]

Our deepest condolences go out to All Israelis and Egyptians affected by this tragedy. You will be in our prayers.



-Elgalad

 

[Damnyankee]

Actually, according to statistics you're more likely to die in a terror attack in NYC than in Israel

not good for me....

 

[luiz]

Actually, according to statistics you're more likely to die in a terror attack in NYC than in Israel

And I'm way more likely to get killed by urban violence over here then any israeli is to die because of a terrorist attack.

The death toll in Israel is not that bad, when compared to other regions in the world. I believe that what makes it so macabre is that it is completely random, they(the terrorists) kill israelis for the sole purpose of killing, there is no way to even create an illusion of safety, like we do in other violent zones.

 

[gael]

Its an unforgiving conflict that dosn't seem to have any real working solution to end.

Like all conflicts of its type, you have extremists on both ends locking horns, with the average people on the ground suffering the consequences.

 

[Verbose]

There's no indication that this attack has anything to do with the Israeli Palestinian conflict, and there's nothing that the UN or the US can do in order to stop the conflict. (with the exception of the US using its nuclear arsenal, but that's not the end we seek).

But most things in the Middle East has to do with that conflict, even if only in the sense that muslim fundies hijack "tha Palestinian cause" in order to have a go att Israeli civilians...

 

[G-Man]

But most things in the Middle East has to do with that conflict, even if only in the sense that muslim fundies hijack "tha Palestinian cause" in order to have a go att Israeli civilians...

This particular attack doesn't appear to have any connections to the Palestinians.

 

[Scuffer]

That's how it seems, but just because no sane Israeli would travel to Cairo for leisure..

I've just got back from a holiday in Taba (about 5 miles down the coast from the bombing) and according to the Egyptians I spoke to there, the region is very popular with Israelis because:
It is just over the border
It's much cheaper than the neighbouring Israeli resort of Eliat
As part of peace negiotatiations in 1979(?), it was decided that you don't need to buy visas are needed for the Sinai region

The last of those was true for me coming from the UK. To go elsewhere (Giza etc) would have involved another security step. I guess that might apply to coming in from elsewhere to.