Make Peace Ghandi!

[VladDrakken]

This is just my personal thought on the games leaders.

I really do like the game thus far, my problem with it really now is the leaders. NO matter how long the war goes on or how much they lose, they seem really unwilling to declare peace.

 

[Giant Dwarf]

Threaten their capital and they'll give you pretty much anything

 

[CrimsonEdge]

This is just my personal thought on the games leaders.

I really do like the game thus far, my problem with it really now is the leaders. NO matter how long the war goes on or how much they lose, they seem really unwilling to declare peace.

This means they don't view you as that big of a threat. If you are overwhelmingly more powerful than them, they will give you multiple cities, lots of gold, all sorts of resources, etc.

As the guy above me said, threaten their capital and they'll give you anything you want in return.

Sometimes, if they see you as an equal, after you take a city or two of theirs, they'll just offer peace.

ETA: The AI will also be incredibly nice to you if, when you are at war with them, you give them three cities. It will be like nothing happened at all. At least this was the case with Napoleon in my last game.

Of course, it took me less than 30 turns to build the Utopia Project and I used this to my advantage and had him declare peace. Was beautiful.

 

[The Rev]

I had the exact opposite problem. I took out Persia's capitol, and three other cities, and they offered me no less than six cities (they only had seven left) all their resources, and ever bit of gold in their treasury for peace. The funny part was, as soon as I got peace with them. Saladin, Nebuchadnezzar, and Hiawatha, all of whom I had asked to join me in war at the beginning, DOWed Darius the very next turn. He was so screwed.

 

[Falcan]

Took one city from one civ, Askia I think, and he gave me 1000 gold for peace.

 

[Stormfather]

It seems to me that once you break their army, the fall of their empire is inevitable- their army has been annihilated in the field, leaving only token resistance throughout the rest of the empire. They know it as well as you do, and will give you anything- because you're capable of taking it by force anyway. On the other hand, if they think they've got you on the ropes, they're absolutely relentless.

It's one of the few things I really love about the new diplomacy system: it makes me feel like Alexander the Great after the battle of Gaugamela. I hated in Civ 4 how a beaten opponent would refuse to offer anything, even when he was down to his last city and defeat was guarenteed.

 

[Shiggs713]

I've had some mixed results. The AI doesn't seem to factor in tactical positioning, or account for navy's very highly on this. There were a few times when a civ would declare war on me, I would utterly defeat anything they threw at me, even sacked a city or two, and still they would accept nothing less then me giving them reparations, even though it was 100% clear to me they could never touch me, or really even last 1 turn anywhere near my borders.

On the other hand, once I conquered one of Ghandi's cities and then he offered me every last thing he could, including several cities, even though my armies were on the other side of the world, and I was merely cleaning up some ugly borders, because these stupid AI's spread like barbarians much worse than in previous versions.

 

[amboo]

This means they don't view you as that big of a threat. If you are overwhelmingly more powerful than them, they will give you multiple cities, lots of gold, all sorts of resources, etc.

As the guy above me said, threaten their capital and they'll give you anything you want in return.

not always the case, in my last game I was fighting with tanks against like pike man, and just rolling through napoleon. For fun I wanted to see what I could get, and he said peace could not be discussed at that time...

 

[Apoll]

Had a second game for a change last night (standard map) while Napoleon hold a whole continent last night. He had taken over 4 civs and 5 city states.

I came over to his continent (had cleared mine), took three cities including Paris (was the first) and then when I broke his army he offered peace.

Result? He kept one city, gave me everything else. I liberate the lot, and all the civs and city states popped back again pledging their friendship. He had less points than the other 4 civs that were non-existent up to a turn ago.


K back to my first game, that is still power struggle between Japan (me) and the rest of the world of 12 leaders (the loons Caesar, Elizabeth among them). One advice. Don't play archipelago (not even if you use random map choice) on marathon with huge map. Might take years to finish it.