Man stops yobs robbing store, is arrested for assault

[Leonel]

And now for news on the other side of the pond

Businessman who grabbed a thug for smashing a window is charged with assault

A businessman was stunned when he detained a yob for smashing a shop window only to be charged by police with assault.

Steve Kink apprehended a thug after catching him breaking into a mobile phone shop late at night.

Although the 47-year-old was punched in the face, he managed to pin the offender to the floor.

Passers-by called the police while he stood over him until officers arrested the 25-year-old man.

Mr Kink, who owns a tattoo parlour, was stunned when he found out the next day the suspect had been let off with a caution for criminal damage.

But his shock turned to fury when days later police officers turned up at his house to arrest him for assaulting the thug.

He was taken to his local police station and held in a cell for six hours before being interviewed.

He was then charged with assault and battery and is due to appear before magistrates next week.

Mr Kink said he is appalled at the way he is being treated. He said: 'I thought I was doing the right thing by making a bit of a citizen's arrest. All I did was use reasonable force to hold him down.

'The officers who turned up appeared grateful at first but now I am facing an assault charge.'

Mr Kink was sitting in his wife's town centre bar in Weymouth, Dorset, when he heard a security alarm go off.

He went outside and confronted two men stood near to the Phone Zone store which had a smashed window.

Mr Kink, who is registered disabled following a motorcycle accident 20 years ago, said he was met with a volley of abuse from the pair before being hit.

He said: '"I accused one of them of smashing the window and he said "'what the f*** has it got to do with you?"

'He then took a swing at me and punched me just under my left eye. I grabbed hold of him and managed to sweep one of his legs from under him and I held him there by putting the toe of my shoe on his shoulder blade.

'There were lots of other people around at this stage and somebody had hold of the other bloke he was with. When the police arrived I stepped back and he kicked off at them. When he was put in the police car he tried to kick in the windows.'

A few days later police turned up at Mr Kink's home. 'There were three police officers and a dog handler there. They told me I was being arrested for assault,' he said.

The owner of the Phone Zone store, who did not wish to be named, said he has been left out of pocket by the damage.

He said: 'I am very grateful for what Steve did and at the end of the day he has done the police's job for them.

'The damage to the window was £250 but I don't know how and when I am going to get that back.'

A spokesman for Dorset Police confirmed that Mr Kink had been charged with assault over the incident.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bed-thug-smashing-window-charged-assault.html

And people wonder why I shake my head sadly at England.

 

[Brighteye]

I don't know how the Mail finds out about these stories.

 

[skadistic]

Criminal gets off and good citizen gets punished.

Remember kids just let crime happen.

 

[Bigfoot3814]

I guess they found a Kink in the legal system.

 

[Mise]

lol at kneejerk reactions...

Just google "have a go hero" and you'll see plenty of instances of the exact opposite happening. The following are all on the first page. Hell, even Jack Straw, Justice Secretary, is at it!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/sep/27/immigrationpolicy.labourconference

Straw reveals past as have-a-go hero
Justice secretary relates four occasions when he intervened to stop criminals - including three when he detained offender - as he sets out plans to review laws on self-defence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7185807.stm

'Have-a-go hero' in police honour

A man from south-east London who has tackled at least 30 criminals on the street has been recognised for his bravery by the Metropolitan Police.

http://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/Judge-praises-haveago-hero.3635759.jp

Judge praises have-a-go hero

A MAN who stepped in as a gang armed with knives and baseball bats beat a man almost to death has been praised for his courage by a judge.

The attack, at Benbow Court local centre, Shenley Church End, was so vicious another witness, a former Royal Marine and bodyguard in Iraq, was left 'quaking with fear'.

Rugby coach Geoffrey Harman intervened when he saw the men ambush their victimover a debt in January last year.

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/...go-hero-in-carjacking-praised-97319-21142017/

Have-a-go hero in carjacking praised

A HAVE-a-go hero today told of the moment he leapt into action and chased after two gun-wielding carjackers who had attacked a female motorist.

Paul Davies jumped from his van and sprinted after the armed men after witnessing the shocking attack on the young woman in Tyseley.

As it says in the first article, the laws surrounding "have a go heroes" is to be reviewed.

 

[Gilder]

His name is Mr. Kink and he runs a tatoo parlour?

That sounds like some sort of reggae song.

 

[Masquerouge]

lol at kneejerk reactions...

Just google "have a go hero" and you'll see plenty of instances of the exact opposite happening. The following are all on the first page. Hell, even Jack Straw, Justice Secretary, is at it!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/sep/27/immigrationpolicy.labourconference


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7185807.stm


http://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/Judge-praises-haveago-hero.3635759.jp


As it says in the first article, the laws surrounding "have a go heroes" is to be reviewed.

Silly! You should know by now that all it takes to thoroughly argue against anything you don't like is a random anecdote in a dubious newspaper. Universal health care, gun laws, gas prices, basket ball, whatever, it always works!

 

[skadistic]

Yup just because other people weren't charged with crimes automatically means this case means nothing. And if its in a paper that you don't like that makes it mean even less.

 

[Mise]

Yup just because other people weren't charged with crimes automatically means this case means nothing. And if its in a paper that you don't like that makes it mean even less.

It means that there is more to this case than the Daily Mail is presenting. Clearly, people who catch criminals aren't all charged with assault in the UK, as some people seem to think.

But I don't expect you to care about the truth.

 

[Agent Valentine]

If UK has citizens arrest laws, you have to inform them they are under arrest. Just like the police in America have to read you your rights, citizens making citizens arrest do as well and if they don't the arrest is unlawful. So yeah, he committed that crime. Just holding down the person means an arrest is illegal, you have to inform them that they are being arrested and what they're being arrested for.

Also, he did not own the property, and was not entrusted with caring/protecting the property, so he probably had no right to act to defend it. I don't know what the UK law is like, but it probably allows citizens arrests in cases of serious crimes, and depending on what breaking glass falls under, he may not have even had the right to make a citizens arrest in the first place. If he didn't, then yeah, it's assault.

 

[Bigfoot3814]

I wonder what England does when the Guardian Angels try to intervene with something. Do they even have Guardian Angels over there?

 

[bhsup]

If UK has citizens arrest laws, you have to inform them they are under arrest. Just like the police in America have to read you your rights, citizens making citizens arrest do as well and if they don't the arrest is unlawful. So yeah, he committed that crime. Just holding down the person means an arrest is illegal, you have to inform them that they are being arrested and what they're being arrested for.

Also, he did not own the property, and was not entrusted with caring/protecting the property, so he probably had no right to act to defend it. I don't know what the UK law is like, but it probably allows citizens arrests in cases of serious crimes, and depending on what breaking glass falls under, he may not have even had the right to make a citizens arrest in the first place. If he didn't, then yeah, it's assault.

Then criminals have way too many rights if a citizen performing a righteous act like this gentleman gets in trouble at all. Hell, they should give him a citizen's award, not a night in jail.

 

[philippe]

I wonder what England does when the Guardian Angels try to intervene with something. Do they even have Guardian Angels over there?

God left England a looooooooooooooong time ago.



(I'm looking at you, Henry the eighth)

Then criminals have way too many rights if a citizen performing a righteous act like this gentleman gets in trouble at all. Hell, they should give him a citizen's award, not a night in jail.

I agree, sometimes the system drops a screw, but at least nobody died.

 

[skadistic]

It means that there is more to this case than the Daily Mail is presenting. Clearly, people who catch criminals aren't necessarily charged with assault, as some people seem to think.

But of course you don't really care about the truth, you just like getting your rocks off when baddies get pwned.

Yeah I don't care about the truth. Maybe you can quote me saying that some where. No you can't because its just another ones of the lies you make up. Do you ever get tired of being a liar?

But since you know all about the truth and how to avoid it why don't you tell me exactly what is missing from the report.

Clearly this guy was charged with a crime. Clearly just because others haven't doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Clearly the DailyMail is making it all up.

 

[Mise]

Then criminals have way too many rights if a citizen performing a righteous act like this gentleman gets in trouble at all. Hell, they should give him a citizen's award, not a night in jail.

As I said, the laws are being reviewed.

 

[philippe]

Yeah I don't care about the truth. Maybe you can quote me saying that some where. No you can't because its just another ones of the lies you make up. Do you ever get tired of being a liar?

But since you know all about the truth and how to avoid it why don't you tell me exactly what is missing from the report.

Clearly this guy was charged with a crime. Clearly just because others haven't doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Clearly the DailyMail is making it all up.

it's the dailymail, what do you expect?

Haven't we been through this already?

 

[Mise]

Yeah I don't care about the truth. Maybe you can quote me saying that some where. No you can't because its just another ones of the lies you make up. Do you ever get tired of being a liar?

But since you know all about the truth and how to avoid it why don't you tell me exactly what is missing from the report.

Clearly this guy was charged with a crime. Clearly just because others haven't doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Clearly the DailyMail is making it all up.

I don't expect you to admit that you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Bigfoot3814]

God left England a looooooooooooooong time ago.

No, I'm talking about these Guardian Angels. You don't know what's goin' down on the streets!

 

[aelf]

That's right kids. You don't shoot those damn criminals, and they'll climb all over your heads. Next thing you know the mafia is running the government.

Shoot first, think later.

 

[Rossiya]

I don't know how the Mail finds out about these stories.

Seconded. Typical Mail gatekeeping I suppose.