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Man stops yobs robbing store, is arrested for assault
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That is all well and good. In the meantime, until the new laws come into effect, does your Prime Minister or some other government official have the power of pardon if the guy somehow ends up getting sent to the slammer over this?
@Ziggy: I give a big thumbs up for multitude of reasons, Junk Yard Wars being up there. The UK rocks and I am sure this is just a bad blip.
Mise
isle of lucy
It's our greatest export! Some countries have electronics, some have precious metals... We have Jeremy Clarkson.And people wonder why I give a happy thumbsup to England.
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philippe
FYI, I chase trains.
Well then, if you had further scrolled down in your own link, you would have seen this:
Syterion
Voodoo Economist
It was self-defense. I don't even see how he needs to say it was a citizen's arrest, when the guy punched him in the face first.
Mise
isle of lucy
It's highly likely that there is more to this case than the Daily Mail is presenting (given their track record for reporting...).
Also note that he's been charged, not convicted, so there's nothing yet to "overturn".
Agent Valentine
Warlord
Holding someone down forcibly is depriving them of their freedom and is an arrest. It does not matter what was done to you, you still need to inform them that they're being arrested and what for otherwise it's an unlawful arrest.
Bigfoot3814
Deity
Well, what do you know! It also reveals that citizens arrests are legal in England.
Mise
isle of lucy
You don't know that what is presented in the article is all that happened.
I agree that, based on the defendent's accounts, he is innocent.........
But based on any defendent's accounts, he is innocent........
Syterion
Voodoo Economist
There were witnesses.
nonconformist
Miserable
Clearly ENGLAND NEEDS FIREARMS
When conducting a citizen's arrst in the UK, the detainee has to be told they are under citizen's arrest, otherwise the law will likely view it as illegal detention.
Bigfoot3814
Deity
Yes. At the very least thier police do. Take baby steps first, then arm the populace.
nonconformist
Miserable
Our armed police has shown that even they can't be trusted with firearms, don't think arming your regular bobby, especially not Commuity Support Offcers is going to lead in a reduction in crime, it's gonna end with a lot of very dead, very dark people.
aelf
Ashen One
Why won't anyone think of the children? They are most vulnerable. They need firearms first!
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philippe
FYI, I chase trains.
I was shooting metal pebbles while you were wielding a real gun...
(I'm glad for that actually, becuase we once tried to play russian roulette with them (when I was 12) )
Aegis
Deity
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Or holding them down is the minimum force required to prevent them from hurting you further.
And that still does not explain why the poor bastard is being charged with Assault; A crippled man was defending himself against an attacker, and he ends up being charged with assault while the criminal is set free? What's wrong with this picture?
It's so much better to beat them unconscious when defending yourself, then. Got it.
Masquerouge
Deity
I can see a lot of things that are wrong with this picture:
- we don't have all of it, only what the Daily Mail (bastion of the clear-thinking, level-headed, thoroughly-researched press) wants us to know
- it's not a representative picture (see Mise's links)
- we don't know how exactly he's crippled, but since he was able to subdue one of the dudes, I bet it's not too harsh.
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