[Map] Giant Earth Map

World needs 2 extra Aluminum. Right now it feels more scarce than Uranium. Ireland and Canada could use some love.

Also what is the reason for having singular Luxuries? Like one Tea or just one Dye. It messes up Wonderous Effect mechanics, particularly the civic choice that enables it with 20% less resources.
 
There are Coffe and Silk too.

I'll take a look.
 
let's start with strategic resources, ie Bauxite/Uranium, here is the current map:

Spoiler :
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I don't know why I've put one deposit in Japan, maybe I wanted to put another resource there.

We could move it to Europe I think, and maybe add one in SE Asia.

How is Uranium ?
 
I mean on the gameplay side, enough / too much.

The one near the lakes in Africa is Shinkolobwe ? I remember I moved it a bit west to be in Congo territory, I think I can move it back a bit east since the redraw.
 
And the full resource map maybe better to work on the full list / territories for balance
Spoiler :
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For Bauxite - I'd say southern Vietnam would make sense. Potentially Kosovo/Montenegro (Illyria) as well, and Venezuela/Guiana. In the United States, the vast majority is located in Arkansas (Mississippia).

For Uranium, Arizona (Nivata) has long been a center of uranium mining (to the detriment of the Navajo people) as well as nearby states of Colorado and New Mexico. Other locations could include Krasnokamensk, Czech Republic, Gabon, and Uzbekistan. EDIT: The largest Chinese deposits appear to be in Xinjiang, Jiangxi, and Inner Mongolia.

For dyes, there are many options:
Woad: Top location would be Occitania, Toulouse was a major center of the woad trade
Indigo: India and West Africa appear to be centers; During the Raj, Indigo appears to have been centered on the upper Indus and Ganges rivers and in the Southeast. Having trouble finding exactly where it was produced in West Africa, but Kayes in Mali was an important dyeing center
Logwood: Comes from the Campeche region of the Yucatan
Cochineal: Southern Mexico, specifically the Oaxaca region during the Colonial Era; but was also important to the Aztecs
Armenian Cochineal: Armenia and Eastern Anatolia
Polish Cochineal: Poland, Baltic, Belarus, Western Ukraine
Brazilwood: Atlantic Forest of eastern Brazil
Turmeric: Seems to be primarily Andhra Pradesh state?
(Related to the hunt for resources for Cambodia - it was a source for Gamboge dye)

(Spent too long making this and didn't see your updated resource distribution photo, Gedemon!)
 
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The one near the lakes in Africa is Shinkolobwe ? I remember I moved it a bit west to be in Congo territory, I think I can move it back a bit east since the redraw.

I think you have it in the right place on your map - not sure why it's so far east (if that's what it's representing) on this map
 
Used a different starting picture, but should still hopefully be of use!

Spoiler Some before-and-after size statistics :
Anatolia 33 25
Armenia 34 26
Mesopotamia 29 25
Transcaucasia 18 19
Persia 26 27
Media 32 28
Upper Meso. N/A 24


Additionally, it should give a bit more space for Hattusa to not be right on the border and equalizes the territory size in the region a bit. Furthermore, it solves the issue of whether or not the Armenia territory contains the Armenian core.

I noticed while doing this that the map appears to be missing Lake Van and/or Lake Urmia. Both might not fit, but one should probably be there - probably best to sort out it out when tile/city naming comes into play, however. The geography here is a little skewed because the Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf don't line up as they do in real life.
moved this post and a few others from the other thread, to keep changes to the map in one place.

Here's a proposal:
Spoiler :
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I've changed the topography to better represent the area and the W-E then NW-SE line, let me know if some mountains should be re-added there. (and where exactly)

Lake Van added, moved a Games/Animals resource to represent Lake Urmia, added another one for Lake Sevan.

Tigris/Euphrate also redrawn to fit the lakes positions.
 
I've found the list of minors :)

Spoiler :
Code:
IndependentPeople_Era1_Peaceful_Akkadians
IndependentPeople_Era1_Peaceful_Elamites
IndependentPeople_Era1_Peaceful_Noks
IndependentPeople_Era1_Peaceful_NorteChicoPeople
IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Hurrians
IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Hyksos
IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Kassites
IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Lullubis
IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Medes
IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Minoans
IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Mittanians
IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Etruscans
IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Garamantes
IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Mochicas
IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Nazcans
IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Parthians
IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Scythians
IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Zapotecs
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Arverni
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Burgundians
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Cantabris
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Cherusci
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Dacians
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Molossians
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Numidians
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Picts
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Sabines
IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Vandals
IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Armenians
IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Icelanders
IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Khazars
IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Malinke
IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Toltecs
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Avars
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Berbers
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Bretons
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Magyars
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Normans
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Ostrogoths
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Scots
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Somalis
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Thai
IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Wisigoths
IndependentPeople_Era4_Peaceful_Inca
IndependentPeople_Era4_Peaceful_Malays
IndependentPeople_Era4_Peaceful_Tamils
IndependentPeople_Era4_Peaceful_Tarascans
IndependentPeople_Era4_Violent_Kongo
IndependentPeople_Era4_Violent_Mississipians
IndependentPeople_Era4_Violent_Tlaxcaltecs

ideally, to define where they can spawn, and save me a lot of time, I'd love to have it in this format (it's an example, actual list for Ostrogoths can be different of course):

Code:
                    { "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Ostrogoths",                    new List<int>() { 109, 117, 119, 120 } }, // Suecia, Polonia, Ucraina, Baltica

where numbers are the territory indexes as shown in the map editor with a right click on a territory in the territory drawing mode, if one of you has some free time. (no need for the names, they are just here for reference)

I think I'll code something to allow them to spawn in territories adjacent to the listed ones, else they may not have enough free spawn points.

for reference, full actual territory list
Spoiler :
Code:
                    { 0, "Mare Beringianum"},
                    { 1, "Chatanga"},
                    { 2, "Flumen Cromwellianum"},
                    { 3, "Insulae Aleutiae"},
                    { 4, "Alasca"},
                    { 5, "Saskatchewan"}, // South Alberta+South Saskatchewan
                    { 6, "Columbia Britannica"},
                    { 7, "Haida Gwaii"}, // Islands West of British Columbia
                    { 8, "Kitlineq"}, // Victoria Island
                    { 9, "Nunavut"},
                    { 10, "Baffin"}, // North Canada Island
                    { 11, "Groenlandia"},
                    { 12, "Keewatin"},
                    { 13, "Canada"},
                    { 14, "Ungava"},
                    { 15, "Terra Nova"},
                    { 16, "Mare Laboratorium"},
                    { 17, "Islandia"},
                    { 18, "Tzadia"},
                    { 19, "Hibernia"}, // Ireland
                    { 20, "Caledonia"}, // Scottland
                    { 21, "Britannia"}, // England
                    { 22, "Occitania"},
                    { 23, "Batavia"},
                    { 24, "Neustria"}, // Northern France
                    { 25, "Flumen Kuroshio"},
                    { 26, "Flumen Californiense"},
                    { 27, "Esonia"},
                    { 28, "Camtschatca"},
                    { 29, "Iaponia Boreales"},
                    { 30, "Iaponia Australes"},
                    { 31, "Australia Occidentalis"},
                    { 32, "Terra Reginae"},
                    { 33, "Australia Septentrionalis"},
                    { 34, "Australia Australis"},
                    { 35, "Cambria Australis"},
                    { 36, "Te Ika-a-Maui"},
                    { 37, "Te Waipounamu"},
                    { 38, "Cambosia"},
                    { 39, "Tasmania"},
                    { 40, "Magnus Sinus Australianus"},
                    { 41, "Mexicum"},
                    { 42, "Samoa"},
                    { 43, "Oceanus Indicus"},
                    { 44, "Mare Tasmanianum"},
                    { 45, "Guatemala"}, // Central America
                    { 46, "Amazonia"},
                    { 47, "Peruvia"},
                    { 48, "Columbia"},
                    { 49, "Caatinga"}, // North Brazil
                    { 50, "Guiana"},
                    { 51, "Patagonia"}, // South Chile, Argentina
                    { 52, "Atacama"}, // South Peru / North Chile
                    { 53, "Pantanal"},
                    { 54, "Brasilia Australis"},
                    { 55, "Mare Caribaeum"},
                    { 56, "Florida"},
                    { 57, "Antillae"},
                    { 58, "Texia"},
                    { 59, "Mississippia"},
                    { 60, "Massachusetta"},
                    { 61, "Carolinae"},
                    { 62, "Chihuahua"},
                    { 63, "Lacus Magni"},
                    { 64, "Magnae Planities"},
                    { 65, "Dacota"},
                    { 66, "Oregonia"},
                    { 67, "Flumen Aequatoriale Septentrionale"},
                    { 68, "Havaii"},
                    { 69, "Insulae Marianae"},
                    { 70, "Insulae Marsaliensis"},
                    { 71, "Insulae Marchionis"},
                    { 72, "Insula Paschalis"},
                    { 73, "Polynesia Centralis"},
                    { 74, "Insulae Salomanis"},
                    { 75, "Polynesia Australis"},
                    { 76, "Flumen Circumpolare Antarcticum"},
                    { 77, "Insulae Galapagenses"},
                    { 78, "Gyrus Pacifici Australis"},
                    { 79, "Flumen Humboldtianum"},
                    { 80, "Insulae Bonin"},
                    { 81, "Insulae Atlanticae Australis"},
                    { 82, "Mare Argentinum"},
                    { 83, "Fossa Mariana"},
                    { 84, "Polynesia Borealis"},
                    { 85, "Fretum Drakeanum"},
                    { 86, "Oceanus Atlanticus Australis"},
                    { 87, "Flumen Benguelense"},
                    { 88, "Flumen Aequatoriale Australe"},
                    { 89, "Mare Sargassum"},
                    { 90, "Oceanus Atlanticus"},
                    { 91, "Canariae Insulae"},
                    { 92, "Azores"},
                    { 93, "Oceanus Atlanticus Orientalis"},
                    { 94, "Insulae Societalis"},
                    { 95, "Andalusia"},
                    { 96, "Castella"},
                    { 97, "Aragonia"},
                    { 98, "Sardinia"},
                    { 99, "Italia Annonaria"},
                    { 100, "Italia Suburbicaria"},
                    { 101, "Graecia"},
                    { 102, "Illyria"},
                    { 103, "Dacia"},
                    { 104, "Danubia"},
                    { 105, "Germania"},
                    { 106, "Syria"},
                    { 107, "Norvegia"},
                    { 108, "Crasnoiarium"},
                    { 109, "Suecia"},
                    { 110, "Permia"},
                    { 111, "Finnia"},
                    { 112, "Kola"},
                    { 113, "Mare Barentsianum"},
                    { 114, "Biarmia"},
                    { 115, "Nova Zembla"},
                    { 116, "Novogardia"},
                    { 117, "Polonia"},
                    { 118, "Cappadocia"},
                    { 119, "Ucraina"},
                    { 120, "Baltica"},
                    { 121, "Transcaucasia"},
                    { 122, "Moscovia"},
                    { 123, "Assyria"},
                    { 124, "Ciscaucasia"},
                    { 125, "Mauretania"},
                    { 126, "Sahara"},
                    { 127, "Libya"},
                    { 128, "Aegyptus"},
                    { 129, "Malia"},
                    { 130, "Cammarunia"},
                    { 131, "Kenia"},
                    { 132, "Abyssinia"},
                    { 133, "Socotra"},
                    { 134, "Insulae Mascarene"},
                    { 135, "Madagascaria"},
                    { 136, "Cape"},
                    { 137, "Congo"},
                    { 138, "Flumen Agulhas" },
                    { 139, "Oceanus Indicus Occidentalis"},
                    { 140, "Mare Arabicum"},
                    { 141, "SriLanca"},
                    { 142, "Mesopotamia"},
                    { 143, "Hidiazum"},
                    { 144, "Media"},
                    { 145, "Maharastra"},
                    { 146, "Afgania"},
                    { 147, "Ganges"},
                    { 148, "Nenetsia"},
                    { 149, "Orenburgum"},
                    { 150, "Tibetum "},
                    { 151, "Altai"},
                    { 152, "Lapponia"},
                    { 153, "Tungusca"},
                    { 154, "Lena"},
                    { 155, "Cisbaicalia"},
                    { 156, "Mare Tschukotense"},
                    { 157, "Amur"},
                    { 158, "Magadanum"},
                    { 159, "Corea"},
                    { 160, "Insulae Lineae"},
                    { 161, "Territorium Maritimum"},
                    { 162, "Planum Sinense"},
                    { 163, "Flumen Flavum"},
                    { 164, "Flumen Margaritarum"},
                    { 165, "Formosa"},
                    { 166, "Birmania"},
                    { 167, "Vietnamia"},
                    { 168, "Thailandia"},
                    { 169, "Malaesia"},
                    { 170, "Sumatra"},
                    { 171, "Andamanenses"},
                    { 172, "Sinus Bengalensis"},
                    { 173, "Hainania"},
                    { 174, "Mare Philippinense"},
                    { 175, "Iava"},
                    { 176, "Celebis"},
                    { 177, "Papua"},
                    { 178, "Borneum"},
                    { 179, "Casmiria"},
                    { 180, "Melanesia"},
                    { 181, "Flumen Australianum Occidentale"},
                    { 182, "Gyrus Indici"},
                    { 183, "Archipelagus Crozetense"},
                    { 184, "Oceanus Indicus Australis"},
                    { 185, "Oceanus Atlanticus Septentrionalis"},
                    { 186, "Mare Norvegicum"},
                    { 187, "Tarim"},
                    { 188, "Marocum"},
                    { 189, "Casanum"},
                    { 190, "Numidia"},
                    { 191, "Finmarchia"},
                    { 192, "Taimyr"},
                    { 193, "Tomium"},
                    { 194, "Iamalia"},
                    { 195, "Iana"},
                    { 196, "Colyma"},
                    { 197, "Tschucoticus"},
                    { 198, "Kenai"}, // South Alaska
                    { 199, "Athabasca"}, // North Alberta+North Saskatchewan
                    { 200, "Dene"}, // Nothwest Territories
                    { 201, "Laboratoria"},
                    { 202, "Flumen Argenteum"},
                    { 203, "Terra Ignium"},
                    { 204, "Nivata"},
                    { 205, "Chorasmia"},
                    { 206, "Kazachia"},
                    { 207, "Indus"},
                    { 208, "Desertum Gobium"},
                    { 209, "Somalia"},
                    { 210, "Naimbia"},
                    { 211, "Guinea"},
                    { 212, "Nigritania"},
                    { 213, "Ngbandia "},
                    { 214, "Angolia"},
                    { 215, "Zambia"},
                    { 216, "Capitis Viridis"},
                    { 217, "Tuvalu"},
                    { 218, "Philippinae"},
                    { 219, "Yucatania"},
                    { 220, "Beninum"},
                    { 221, "Sichuan"},
                    { 222, "Zimbabua"},
                    { 223, "Tobolium"},
                    { 224, "Ienisea"},
                    { 225, "Mongolia Ulterior"},
                    { 226, "Voronegia"},
                    { 227, "Arabia"},
                    { 228, "Omium"},
                    { 229, "Manchuria"},
                    { 230, "Parthia"},
                    { 231, "Bengala"},
                    { 232, "California"},
                    { 233, "Sudania"},
                    { 234, "Mozambicum"},
                    { 235, "Gedrosia"},
                    { 236, "Dravidia"},
                    { 237, "Odisa"},
                    { 238, "Thracia"},
                    { 239, "Transbaicalia"},
                    { 240, "Mongolia Citerior"},
                    { 241, "Kiangnanum"},
                    { 242, "Alpes Iaponicae"},
                    { 243, "Persia"},
                    { 244, "Amdo"},
                    { 245, "Transoxiana"},
                    { 246, "Chilia"},
                    { 247, "Venetiola"},
                    { 248, "Paraensis"},
                    { 249, "Flumen Brasiliense"},
                    { 250, "Lydia"},
                    { 251, "Ultima Thule"},
                    //{ 252, ""},
                    //{ 253, ""},
                    //{ 254, ""},
                    //{ 255, ""}, // Last Index !
                };

no SeelingCat, it's fine to have those free numbers at the end, no need to search a use for them.
 
If you are looking to redraw rivers, may I suggest joining the current 2 rivers in the Del Plata estuary into a single one instead? Not that it would change much gameplay wise, it's just a bit jarring to see the Paraná and Uruguay not joining to make El Río de la Plata :)
 
If you are looking to redraw rivers, may I suggest joining the current 2 rivers in the Del Plata estuary into a single one instead? Not that it would change much gameplay wise, it's just a bit jarring to see the Paraná and Uruguay not joining to make El Río de la Plata :)
that's a technical issue.

here is what we have now:
Spoiler :
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We can't join rivers on the last tile, and we can't have 2 rivers ending in the same coastal tile
Spoiler :
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So here are the alternatives:
Spoiler :
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I've found the list of minors :)

where numbers are the territory indexes as shown in the map editor with a right click on a territory in the territory drawing mode, if one of you has some free time. (no need for the names, they are just here for reference)

Here you go!
Code:
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Peaceful_Akkadians",        new List<int>() { 142, 123 } }, // Mesopotamia, Assyria
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Peaceful_Elamites",        new List<int>() { 243 } }, // Persia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Peaceful_Noks",            new List<int>() { 220 } }, // Beninum
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Peaceful_NorteChicoPeople",        new List<int>() { 47 } }, // Peruvia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Hurrians",        new List<int>() { 123 } }, // Assyria
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Hyksos",            new List<int>() { 128 } }, // Aegyptus
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Kassites",        new List<int>() { 142 } }, // Mesopotami
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Lullubis",        new List<int>() { 142 } }, // Mesopotami
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Medes",            new List<int>() { 144, 243 } }, // Media, Persia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Minoans",            new List<int>() { 101 } }, // Graecia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era1_Violent_Mittanians",        new List<int>() { 123 } }, // Assyria
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Etruscans",        new List<int>() { 99, 100 } }, // Italia Annonaria, Italia Suburbicaria
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Garamantes",        new List<int>() { 127 } }, // Libya
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Mochicas",        new List<int>() { 47 } }, // Peruvia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Nazcans",        new List<int>() { 47, 52 } }, // Peruvia, Atacama
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Parthians",        new List<int>() { 230 } }, // Parthia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Scythians",        new List<int>() { 205, 149, 206, 228, 124, 226 } }, // Chorasmia, Orenburgum, Kazachia, Omium, Ciscaucasia, Voronegia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Peaceful_Zapotecs",        new List<int>() { 219, 41 } }, // Yucatania, Mexicum
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Arverni",            new List<int>() { 22 } }, // Occitania
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Burgundians",        new List<int>() { 117, 105, 99, 22 } }, // Polonia, Germania, Italia Annonaria, Occitania
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Cantabris",        new List<int>() { 96, 97 } }, // Castella, Aragonia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Cherusci",        new List<int>() { 105 } }, // Germania
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Dacians",            new List<int>() { 103 } }, // Dacia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Molossians",        new List<int>() { 101, 102 } }, // Graecia, Illyria
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Numidians",        new List<int>() { 190 } }, // Numidia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Picts",            new List<int>() { 20 } }, // Caledonia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Sabines",            new List<int>() { 100, 99 } }, // Italia Suburbicaria, Italia Annonaria
{ "IndependentPeople_Era2_Violent_Vandals",            new List<int>() { 117, 120, 190, 98, 105, 22, 95 } }, // Polonia, Baltica, Numidia?, Sardinia?, Germania, Occitania, Andalusia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Armenians",        new List<int>() { 121, 118, 123 } }, // Transcaucasia, Cappadocia, Assyria
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Icelanders",        new List<int>() { 17, 11 } }, // Islandia, Groenlandia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Khazars",        new List<int>() { 124, 226, 121, 119, 205 } }, // Ciscaucasia, Voronegia, Transcaucasia, Ucraina, Chorasmia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Malinke",        new List<int>() { 129, 211 } }, // Malia, Guinea
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Peaceful_Toltecs",        new List<int>() { 219, 41 } }, // Yucatania, Mexicum
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Avars",            new List<int>() { 124, 104, 102, 103 } }, // Ciscaucasia, Danubia, Illyria, Dacia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Berbers",            new List<int>() { 188, 190, 126, 127, 125 } }, // Marocum, Numidia, Sahara, Libya, Mauretania
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Bretons",            new List<int>() { 24 } }, // Neustria
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Magyars",            new List<int>() { 119, 103, 104 } }, // Ucraina, Dacia, Danubia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Normans",            new List<int>() { 24, 21 } }, // Neustria, Anglia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Ostrogoths",        new List<int>() { 109, 99, 119, 104 } }, // Suecia, Italia Annonaria, Ucraina, Danubia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Scots",            new List<int>() { 20 } }, // Caledonia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Somalis",            new List<int>() { 209 } }, // Somalia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Thai",            new List<int>() { 168, 169 } }, // Thailandia, Malaesia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era3_Violent_Wisigoths",        new List<int>() { 103, 109, 22, 95, 97, 96 } }, // Dacia, Suecia, Occitania, Andalusia, Aragonia, Castella
{ "IndependentPeople_Era4_Peaceful_Inca",            new List<int>() { 47, 52, 246 } }, // Peruvia, Atacama, Chilia
{ "IndependentPeople_Era4_Peaceful_Malays",            new List<int>() { 169, 170, 178 } }, // Malaesia, Sumatra, Borneum
{ "IndependentPeople_Era4_Peaceful_Tamils",            new List<int>() { 236, 141 } }, // Dravidia, Sri Lanca
{ "IndependentPeople_Era4_Peaceful_Tarascans",        new List<int>() { 41 } }, // Mexicum
{ "IndependentPeople_Era4_Violent_Kongo",            new List<int>() { 214, 137 } }, // Angolia, Congo
{ "IndependentPeople_Era4_Violent_Mississipians",        new List<int>() { 59, 63, 61, 56 } }, // Mississippia, Lacus Magni, Carolinae, Florida
{ "IndependentPeople_Era4_Violent_Tlaxcaltecs",        new List<int>() { 41 } }, // Mexicum

Hopefully that posted and formatted correctly!

no SeelingCat, it's fine to have those free numbers at the end, no need to search a use for them.

Curses, foiled again!


Regarding the Rio de la Plata - I think the second to last one looks best to me. I assume there's also a limitation on splitting rivers to make deltas as well?
 
If you are looking to redraw rivers, may I suggest joining the current 2 rivers in the Del Plata estuary into a single one instead? Not that it would change much gameplay wise, it's just a bit jarring to see the Paraná and Uruguay not joining to make El Río de la Plata :)
Or I can hack this in, not sure about what will happen on that tiles yield-side or if there will be unexpected consequences for the map stability.
Spoiler :
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Here you go!
[...]
Hopefully that posted and formatted correctly!
great, thanks :goodjob:

just need to code the mechanism now...

Curses, foiled again!
but wait for the 203x106 version...


Regarding the Rio de la Plata - I think the second to last one looks best to me. I assume there's also a limitation on splitting rivers to make deltas as well?
yep, they can be hacked in like this, but same question about the effect/consequences.
Spoiler :
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oh, right

i did not remember about the confluence rules!

yeah, any option with a joined ending is much easier for my brain to process :)

thanks a million for having a look at it!

also, apologies on the pampas tangent. i now realize you're using independent peoples already present in the game

(still, for the territory pampas or a latinisation of it could be a better fit IMHO)
 
That territory was originally named Pampa (the Latin name for the Pampas), but I believe it sort of migrated north with the redraw to include half of Paraguay, so I suggested to name it after the Río de la Plata and its basin instead, but it also does cover pretty much all of the pampas as well.
 
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