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Sure, his eyes remain the beautiful, deep chocolate brown, but now we know the truth. Rubio has been ingesting the geriatric spice, smuggled from Arrakis - Desert Planet - Dune, and it has given him the power to speak the Truth.

The truth is that Americans are at each others' throats. What's more, that simply is unsustainable. As much as we may disagree, we must work hard to honor and respect each other. Civil discourse and dialogue is the only way forward.
 
Sure Marco, you are the voice of reason here. If it weren't for the fact that "maintaining civility in the senate" was the ridiculous narrative the Republicans used to justify silencing Elizabeth Warren, which little Marco of course voted for To be perfectly clear, the Republicans invoked a rule against attacking a fellow senator to prevent any negative input to a "debate" about a cabinet nominee, who happened to be a senator. It was not in any way in the spirit of the rule, and for any little scumbag who voted for it to be bemoaning how "we can't hold a civil debate" is the absolute height of disgusting hypocrisy.

And of course you trot it out here as some sort of noble "speaking of the truth," which is in the exact same disgustingly hypocritical vein.
 
I could not have imagined a more apt demonstration of how divisive politics have damaged our social and political cultures, Tim.
 
I could not have imagined a more apt demonstration of how divisive politics have damaged our social and political cultures, Tim.

Thanks. I cannot imagine a better example of someone who has proven time and time again that there is no point in trying to reason with them.
 
Sure, his eyes remain the beautiful, deep chocolate brown, but now we know the truth. Rubio has been ingesting the geriatric spice, smuggled from Arrakis - Desert Planet - Dune, and it has given him the power to speak the Truth.

The truth is that Americans are at each others' throats. What's more, that simply is unsustainable. As much as we may disagree, we must work hard to honor and respect each other. Civil discourse and dialogue is the only way forward.
Strictly speaking (to be pedantic), his eyes should be blue-within-blue (spice addiction) and he would have had to undergo many years of Bene Gesserit training (they don't often bother training males).

But that was an excellent speech (on the surface; I don't know the context that prompted it), and something like it would be beneficial in Canada, as well. I remember a time during the Mulroney years (1984-1993) when Question Period was more shouting and theatrics than calm questions and answers (hardly any questions are given real answers in QP anyway).

Nowadays is a little better, but not much. A lot of partisan sniping has been taken to Twitter, where even 140 words is plenty long enough to say unparliamentary things.
 
The hope for a better world starts with you acting in line with how you want that better world to look like.

If it is lies you are worried about then trust in the truth, not crude jabs.
 
The hope for a better world starts with you acting in line with how you want that better world to look like.

If it is lies you are worried about then trust in the truth, not crude jabs.

Sure...keep telling the truth to a known liar for how long, exactly? I'll stick with telling the truth by calling the liar a liar, and meeting those who want to be snotty on their own turf.
 
If you want the world to be a better place, it is incumbent upon you to be an example to others. You need to show other people that a better way is possible through your own deeds and actions.
 
If you want the world to be a better place, it is incumbent upon you to be an example to others. You need to show other people that a better way is possible through your own deeds and actions.

Number one, I'm fairly happy with the world as it is. Number two, I think that there is far more likelihood of making the world even better if my words and actions include beating the snot out of people who demonstrably cannot be talked out of making it worse.
 
Does Rubio not realize it's his own party and its President who are largely responsible for the situation he describes?

Of course he does. But he also knows that the voters who support that party blame the other party exclusively no matter how obviously off target that might be, so he can still pander to them with this sort of nonsense.
 
Why go back only 30 years? Why not go back and ban any one from government who is the descendant of a slave owner, or who thought it was ok to own slaves?

Because it seems the party who lost, cannot let sleeping dogs lie. It is no longer common sense driving fear. It is phobias of phobias making every one reactionary.

The Democrats wanted the Republicans to swear up and down they would give the Democrats a peaceful transfer from one Democratic leader to another Democratic leader. They must have known that their planned or unplanned protest would need such an agreement, as their fears were realized by their own parties demonstrations instead of a peaceful transfer.
 
It was a rhetorical question. It's what makes me wonder, though, whether the OP is trolling or really that...not sure what the right word is...credulous perhaps?
 
Why go back only 30 years?

Unfortunately no Republican senators questioned the timeliness of the material. Because doing so would have been fruitless, and every nominee from either side has always been subject to examination in their entire lifetime of work. No, they took a completely off point "you can't say bad things about the senator you are debating" rule and pretended that Sessions was just another senator not the nominee under examination. It was a blatant "we are going to misuse any rule, exercise any excuse, and have our way because we can" moment...and coughing up Rubio with "can't we just get along" when he just got done voting for that particularly vindictive bit of chicanery is gross.
 
And here we thought only the Dems could be devious......
 
Thanks. I cannot imagine a better example of someone who has proven time and time again that there is no point in trying to reason with them.

There are authoritarians and crooks, and there are their enablers.

Pretending that you can solve anything by talking civilly will eventually destroy a democracy. There are people who can't afford to wait for a long time for the crooks and their supporters to be convinced. It's basically the moderate version of "Let them have cake." Of course, those ivory tower elitists will only blame these people for being idiots when things eventually go south.
 
Why go back only 30 years? Why not go back and ban any one from government who is the descendant of a slave owner, or who thought it was ok to own slaves?

Because it seems the party who lost, cannot let sleeping dogs lie. It is no longer common sense driving fear. It is phobias of phobias making every one reactionary.

The Democrats wanted the Republicans to swear up and down they would give the Democrats a peaceful transfer from one Democratic leader to another Democratic leader. They must have known that their planned or unplanned protest would need such an agreement, as their fears were realized by their own parties demonstrations instead of a peaceful transfer.


Trump has gotten a peaceful transition. No one has tried to undermine it. Unlike, for example Obama, who they spent 8 years trying to undermine and discredit to the point where many of their fellow travelers wouldn't admit that he was the legitimate president at all.

It's Trump who's decided to fuel the flames with nominees to important positions who are utterly unqualified, and a ton of moronic and evil executive orders.
 
Trump has gotten a peaceful transition. No one has tried to undermine it. Unlike, for example Obama, who they spent 8 years trying to undermine and discredit to the point where many of their fellow travelers wouldn't admit that he was the legitimate president at all.

You're actually really serious here?
 
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