Martial Law in South Korea!

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The National Assembly of ROK can remove the martial law by the majority agreement, 151 yay per 300 total. So legally the martial law was removed after the vote of the National Assembly. President Yoon didn't answer yet.

Military says martial law will be maintained until lifted by president​

The South Korean military says it will maintain martial law until it is lifted by President Yoon Suk Yeol, despite the nation's parliament voting to block its enforcement, according to the country's national broadcaster.

It follows clashes between protesters and the security forces who tried to barricade the National Assembly.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn38321180et

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South Korean parliament votes to ask president to end martial law​

Speaker says lawmakers 'will protect democracy with the people'

South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol declared martial law late Tuesday, vowing to eliminate "anti-state" forces as he struggles against an opposition that controls the country's parliament and that he accuses of sympathizing with communist North Korea.

Hours later, parliament voted to ask the president lift the declaration, with the National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-shik declaring that lawmakers "will protect democracy with the people."

Woo called for police and military personnel to withdraw from the Assembly's grounds.

The president's surprising move harkened back to an era of authoritarian leaders that the country has not seen since the 1980s, and it was immediately denounced by the opposition and the leader of Yoon's own conservative party.

"It's a shocking development. There's no other way to describe it. South Korea has experienced martial law in the past but not since it became a full-fledged liberal democracy in the '80s," Vina Nadjibulla of the Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada told CBC News Network on Tuesday.

Nadjibulla said it was "important to note" there is no immediate threat from North Korea that might have influenced the president's choice.

"At least, that's not the reason why this has happened," she said from Vancouver.

"This is very much about a domestic power struggle and a deeply unpopular president essentially bringing in this measure in the midst of a number of debates in its domestic parliament on the budget as well as scandals — including with his own wife — and other issues that have been plaguing democracy and the constitutional system in South Korea for the last few months."

Following Yoon's announcement, South Korea's military proclaimed that parliament and other political gatherings that could cause "social confusion" would be suspended, according to South Korea's Yonhap news agency.

The military also said that the country's striking doctors should return to work within 48 hours, Yonhap said. Thousands of doctors have been striking for months over government plans to expand the number of students at medical schools. The military said anyone who violates the decree could be arrested without a warrant.

Vote was unanimous​

Based on South Korea's constitution, the president has authority to declare martial law but parliament can vote to ask him to end it.

Soon after the declaration, the National Assembly speaker called on his YouTube channel for all lawmakers to gather at the Assembly building. He urged military and law enforcement personnel to "remain calm and hold their positions.

All 190 lawmakers who participated in the vote supported the lifting of martial law. The nation is now waiting to see whether the president will do so.

"Now, we're in a constitutional crisis. We don't know what the president will do next.... this is a chaotic situation with things developing as we speak," said Nadjibulla.

Television footage showed soldiers who had been stationed at parliament leaving the site after the vote.

Earlier, TV showed police officers blocking the entrance of the Assembly and helmeted soldiers carrying rifles in front of the building.

An Associated Press photographer saw at least three helicopters, likely from the military, that landed inside the Assembly grounds, while two or three helicopters circled above the site.

The leader of Yoon's conservative People Power Party, Han Dong-hoon, called the decision to impose martial law "wrong" and vowed to "stop it with the people." Opposition leader Lee Jae-myung, who narrowly lost to Yoon in the 2022 presidential election, called Yoon's announcement "illegal and unconstitutional."

Yoon said during a televised speech that martial law would help "rebuild and protect" the country from "falling into the depths of national ruin." He said he would "eradicate pro-North Korean forces and protect the constitutional democratic order."

"I will eliminate anti-state forces as quickly as possible and normalize the country," he said, while asking the people to believe in him and tolerate "some inconveniences."

Yoon's party has been locked in an impasse with the liberal opposition over next year's budget bill. The opposition has also attempted to pass motions to impeach three top prosecutors, including the chief of the Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office.

Conservatives have called it a vendetta against their criminal investigations of Lee, who has been seen as the favourite for the next presidential election in 2027 in opinion polls.

Yoon has also dismissed calls for independent investigations into scandals involving his wife and top officials, drawing quick, strong rebukes from his political rivals.

Yoon's move was the first declaration of martial law since the country's democratization in 1987. The country's last previous martial law was in October 1979.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/south-korea-martial-law-1.7399501
 
AP article is reporting that the declaration was politically motivated as the President is unpopular and is trying to stay in power.

Confusion and fear spread as South Korean leader declares martial law. Here’s what to know​

There were quick claims that the emergency declaration was linked to Yoon’s political struggles.
His approval rating has dropped, and he has had little success in getting his policies adopted by a parliament that has been controlled by the opposition since he took over in 2022.
Conservatives have said the opposition moves are political revenge for investigations into the opposition leader, who is seen as the favorite for the next presidential election in 2027.
Just this month, Yoon denied wrongdoing in an influence-peddling scandal involving him and his wife. The claims have battered his approval ratings and fueled attacks by his rivals.

The scandal centers on claims that Yoon and first lady Kim Keon Hee exerted inappropriate influence on the conservative ruling People Power Party to pick a certain candidate to run for a parliamentary by-election in 2022 at the request of Myung Tae-kyun, an election broker and founder of a polling agency who conducted free opinion surveys for Yoon before he became president.

https://apnews.com/article/south-ko...ea-emergency-b310df4fece42c27051f58b8951f346f
 
That was a pretty frightening afternoon. Good thing it seems to fizzle out, and I expect the guy to be impeached (or maybe to step down on his own).
And pretty great to see people rising up against an attempt at a coup, though the military will need a cleaning of the guys who refused to lift the martial law once the vote was passed in the Assembly, and to prevent the representatives to enter the building.
 
Presidential systems are such garbage
 
His biggest accusation is that the opposition are communist (China and North Korea) sympathisers.

South Korea has economic, business, and security interests in both China and the US. The mainstream opinion is some balanced approach.

There is no evidence, but even if it's true, it makes sense that the Chinese will influence South Korean lawmakers to help thwart a president that is too pro-US. Just like how foreigners can influence US politics.
 

Calls grow for South Korea’s president to resign after martial law chaos​

South Korea’s prime minister, ruling party leaders and presidential office advisers were scheduled to hold an emergency meeting at 2 p.m. local time (12 a.m. ET) on Wednesday, according to Yonhap News Agency.

The meeting follows the reversal of President Yoon Suk Yeol’s short-lived martial law decree overnight, which plunged the country into chaos, and as calls grow for the leader to resign. It is unclear whether Yoon will attend the meeting.

Yoon has faced backlash from across the political spectrum, including his own ruling People Power Party, which said it was considering demanding the resignation of his entire Cabinet and the dismissal of Defense Minister Kim Yong Hyun, Yonhap reported. It is discussing whether to demand Yoon’s resignation, according to Yonhap.

 
i knew about the vague notion that south korea never really structured itself away from its military dictatorship (it being a capitalist plutocracy is one thing, this is another), i guess this is proof in the pudding that their institutions are completely insane. that the president can call in martial law at a whim with military support like this is absolutely nuts to me

South Korea has a birthrate of 0.7 - it is dead anyway :/
Didn't react very well to christianity either - Japan did well to avoid conversion almost entirely.
huh?
 
Cleaning house on all the troops who followed the order is of the utmost importance, but I don’t even know how you begin to tackle that. And you also have to have some welfare in place for them after removal or some of them will get super radicalized.

There's an easy solution for this problem but we can't talk about it, because woke
 
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