Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Aroddo, Feb 14, 2014.
I say give the guy counselling till he realizes he's committed a crime and feels remorse.
He's not capable of remorse.
How do you know?
I'm 99% sure, let's put it this way. He kept on killing, and killing, and killing. Even though he had to see all the blood, guts, and dead bodies, yet he still kept on killing. Kids were on their knees begging for their lives, and he kept on killing, and killing, and killing.
Yes. I know what he did.
I'm rather inclined to believe he's insane. But the authorities seem to think he isn't. In which case, it should be possible to counsel him into a state of remorse.
I wouldn't envy him that, though.
Unfortunately he was sane. He just had a warped political agenda like Hitler.
Even if he was right, he went about the solution in completely the wrong way. All it does is draw sympathy towards the victims.
Ah. But you see, you and I differ. I'm inclined to think that killing people is a sign of insanity.
(I know, I know. It's a ridiculous point of view.)
He has to live in those conditions and only a playstation 2? I'm sure he is learning his lesson everyday and the victims familys must feel great about his punishment.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, Nevada plains to BILL inmates for services rendered: $6 per day for meals and $10 for a doctors visit.
How much does it cost to keep them in prison? It's around $30,000 a year isn't it?
Someone suggested that the US was actually trying to reintroduce slavery by incarcerating such large numbers of black people and obliging them to work, essentially for nothing. I don't know how much mileage there is in this view - probably not a lot. But I found the idea interesting.
Well, imho the point of a judicial system isn't really to teach lessons, it is to make sure the criminal doesn't do it again, and considering Norway's low recidivism rate they seem to be doing it right. Of course Breivik 'deserves' a much harsher treatment, but one man -no matter how despicable he and his crime- isn't worth changing the system.
Totally agree. It is to make sure they don't do it again. And with people like this guy, life in prison is the only way. Cruelty and punishment leads down a slippery slope. But I still don't believe this guy should have better living conditions than I had in the military.
I will always believe that there's just a certain segment of society that will never be able to live peacefully with the rest of us. And for our good, we must segregate them. Personally, I'd rather send them to an island, and let them fend for themselves. Maybe some place in the South Pacific. A place with kangaroos.
He actually had a WoW account. http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2423043490
So he starves to death and then proves to every one that he was insane?
Rehabilitation should be part of the system but punishment/retribution should also be part of it. It's great to rehabilitate someone and make them productive....but if I am a parent of one of the childrens whose brains were splattered all over the rocks of the island because of this guys' views, I wouldnt be happy to see all the amenities he is getting.
That's better than a captains cabin, although warships arent designed for comfit as the engineers try to squeeze as much combat capabilities as possible.
I have to agree.
Hes cell should be half that size, without any electronic entertainment, without any money allowance (unless he works and earns that money)
This mass murderer lives in conditions equal to or better than anyone in my apartment complex.
Norway I respect you for your stability and all but this is kind of ridiculous.
What was his class? Human paladin?
Breivik is in pre-trial solitary confinement in a civilized country.
Norway has their way of doing things. I don't see any reason to mock it. The point is to isolate Breivik from the rest of society. He's a piece of human garbage so of course it feels disgusting, but it's better than the macho revenge fantasy stuff that contributes to the deplorable state of American prisons.
I mean, if there was a proved causal link between harshness of prisons and lower rates of crime, that would be an interesting rebuttal to Norway's strategy. I don't think there is though.
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