[RD] Mass protests in Iran

[Arwon]

Oh don't get me wrong, all kinds of Americans believe in this myth of positive regime change through American missiles

 

[caketastydelish]

It worked in Japan, Italy, and Germany. But we won't have to do nearly that much.

 

[Arwon]

Hang on are you claiming that conventional strategic air power changed those regimes? Come on mate take a breath.

We also had a whole discussion about that a few pages ago, turned out it's probably never actually happened that aerial bombardment alone has forced a target country to change its government. You want regime change, that's an invasion and occupation of an enormous mountainous country. A serious commitment.

 

[Lexicus]

The only unambiguously successful use of strategic air power in history was the Berlin Air Lift.

 

[amadeus]

I would only slightly revise my prediction that any US strike on Iran now would be against some target already drawn up months back and would be largely symbolic at this point.

I would have to imagine that intelligence and contingency planning for definite trouble areas like Iran is constantly in the works.

 

[Arwon]

Now we're back to baseless accusations. What, ran out of images?

If you don't see the strings that guide you, well, I pity you. You're being driven to hate, to become fodder for one side just like the MAGA mob is to the other. And it's all to make you too busy thinking you're under attack to reailze who's profiting from all that.

Hey mate care to spell it out for us clueless normies here? who is pulling the strings and profiting from all that

 

[caketastydelish]

A lot is the "something must be done, this is something, this must be done" fallacy.

But also it's a very American hubris/delusion about the strength of that country's arms meaning a strong ability to actually change other countries positively through the application of huge military force against them.

That American hubris sometimes seems to merge with diasporas over there into this kind of pro war sentiment. I've zero doubt that notable elements of the American Iranian diaspora, influenced by American ideology and Trump, are pro-bombing.

Even more generally in the rest of the world, it's an insanely diverse diaspora since the post-revolutionary regime there is so narrow. So there's going to be every conceivable opinion there somewhere, though I'm sure there's less of the American regime change through bombardment ideology in other countries. No doubt the main sentiment is just fear for family members and hoping the protest movement finishes the job without a war making things worse.

Do you think you know more about Iranian Americans than I do? You're neither Iranian nor American. I'm both.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

I understand it's personal for you, but you need to realize that asking America to intervene isn't just going to be limited to airstrikes, especially not with someone like Trump at the helm

 

[caketastydelish]

Trump is limited by Congress, which would throw a fit if boots are on the ground.

 

[Arwon]

Do you think you know more about Iranian Americans than I do? You're neither Iranian nor American. I'm both.

Oh it's like hygge but for the cleansing power of cruise missiles is it

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Trump is limited by Congress, which would throw a fit if boots are on the ground.

Are you seriously this delusional that you think Trump or those cheering on an invasion, which includes Democrats as well, even care about the rules, come on dude

 

[caketastydelish]

Casualties with boots on the ground would be high and trump knows it because of his advisors.

 

[r16]

today's wikipedia page . Turkish version mentions official Romanian investigations taking place years afterwards found that it was two generals and a Goverment Minister who ordered the killings and all three were members of the next Goverment that took over . You know , something or some other something . Especially the Palestinian thugs who mercilessly ... well , ı actually do not challenge that as a fact but it seems hard to find how of many of them took part in the clashes .

 

[danjuno]

That's not equivalent... Iraqis and Afghan people were not demanding regime change nearly at the level Iranians are.

You ignored Libya.

Hey mate care to spell it out for us clueless normies here? who is pulling the strings and profiting from all that

I am also interested in what's being implied here.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Holy moly, I was completely wrong.

USA has no Carrier in the Middle East since September!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2026/01/05/trump-vowed-to-hit-iran-could-a-carrier-be-deployed-to-the-region/

Trump will have to pull one from the Pacific and hope China does not invade Taiwan.

**Edit**

3 missiles destroyers and 1 missile sub are in the area?
Hmm



Moving troops out of bases?
Very concerning.

There are rumors that the Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group is now moving toward the Middle East.

The earliest they could arrive is roughly next Friday if true.

Iran protests latest: Trump warns Tehran killing will have ‘grave consequences’

Flights have resumed over Iran after an order closing its airspace to commercial aircraft expired

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

I would have to imagine that intelligence and contingency planning for definite trouble areas like Iran is constantly in the works.

I would agree, only, it would not be to the benefit of protestors versus the government. Which is supposedly the main impetus for any such strikes now.

 

[caketastydelish]

The revolt seems to have been crushed, and Trump didn't do what he promised to get involved.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Who'd have guessed huh

 

[Birdjaguar]

TACO

 

[Gori the Grey]

Trump didn't do what he promised

This is pretty common with him, cake.