Master Map Change Thread

Less jungle in the Kra, please.. so we can have cities such as Tambralinga (Nakhon Si Tammarat), Kedah (Kadaram) etc.
 
BenZL43 said:
Less jungle in the Kra, please.. so we can have cities such as Tambralinga (Nakhon Si Tammarat), Kedah (Kadaram) etc.
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The plantationing will cut the jungle, so it isn't needed. That's why every plantation resource should be jungled.
 
What the blasted Roman said.
 
I think more about the fact that you went into Britannia and killed the Scots and other natives.
I saw the movie the Eagle a few years ago, I hated it so much. They actually glorified Romans killing Scots just because they lost their GOLDEN eagle from losing a battle in the Scots' homeland!
 
Royal Tenenbaum said:
I think more about the fact that you went into Britannia and killed the Scots and other natives.
I saw the movie the Eagle a few years ago, I hated it so much. They actually glorified Romans killing Scots just because they lost their GOLDEN eagle from losing a battle in the Scots' homeland!
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I watched that movie just a few weeks ago, incidentally.

And ya know, the messed up perspective never even occurred to me. Funny how the good guy is who the storyteller wants it to be, eh?
 
Tre59 said:
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Why don't you buff Moscow and nerf Volgograd by rearranging the iron and wheat?

Right now, your map suggestion makes that area as good as Kiev! :crazyeye:
 
Atlantic Pacf. said:
Why don't you buff Moscow and nerf Volgograd by rearranging the iron and wheat?

Right now, your map suggestion makes that area as good as Kiev! :crazyeye:
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Moscow definitely needs a buff, even without the rest of the changes. In my opinion it should be equivalent to Kiev, with St. Petersburg being the third best city in all of Russia. On the current map (not sure about the one from this thread), move the iron either 1N or 1W, whichever is more appropriate, and another nice resource across from it (such that Moscow is the only city that can hit both). Probably also a wheat in its BFC.
 
I already did that
 
I don't know whether this has been suggested or not, but could there be some way to make Kashgar settlable in the 3000BC start? I know that most people wouldn't bother, it's always bugged me that there's a city in the 600AD and 1700AD games that cannot exist in 3000BC games.
 
I'll keep that in mind.

In other news, I've added in all the suggestions I found acceptable into my map! Unfortunately, I don't have the patience to upload a dozen photos of the world. So instead I think I'll just attach a save game.
 
Here's the save game with all the map updates. I didn't touch as Angolia and Namibia as much as I would like though. I'll go back eventually and change a tile or two. The resources are fine, though.
 

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Update:
Expanded plains 1N in West Africa, including Senegal
Replaced crab near Accra with a fish
Mountain closest to Accra replaced with a jungle hill, aluminum added there
Moved Djenne 1E to the marsh, removed the marsh
Changed lake in West Africa to a normal flatland plain
Added gold near Senegal
Added dye near Djenne
Changed 2 jungles on farthest West coast of Africa to woodlands

Currently looking into the West African coast

EDIT: Jungle with diamonds (the Togo/Benin area) has been changed to a marsh
The area previously a lake which was then changed to flatland plain is now a hill

EDIT EDIT: Changed hill back to flatland, but added a marble

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Added 2 marshes in West Africa, one northwest of Djenne and the other west of Niamey, to prevent supercity placement and to generally make West Africa a less successful area in light of the improving terrain changes
Added river to represent Lake Togo and the Volta River
 
I still think that California should have 2 wine and no oil. The US is the fourth biggest wine producer and most of it comes from the Golden State. And I don't think there's enough oil here to warrant inclusion. Also, I'm not crazy about the South. Jungle where NO should be? Cotton in Arkansas? Coal in Alabama? Bananas in Florida? Although I do agree about adding dyes, I think they should be in the Carolinas.
 
New Orleans is where it is supposed to be. I have no idea why you're so insistent it's on the peninsula.
Bananas represent oranges from Florida, and give Cuba some extra food.
Like people have said before, we can't add tons of resources just because a nation exports. Look at wine exports, the US is only 3 percent.
I added the oil just because one of my favorite films is There Will Be Blood. I never looked into the larger picture. Heh.

Sorry, but I took the suggestions I liked and agreed with and that my studies of resources and city balancing pointed to. I think I'll change the peninsula jungle to a forest with deer.
 
giant49er said:
I still think that California should have 2 wine and no oil. The US is the fourth biggest wine producer and most of it comes from the Golden State. And I don't think there's enough oil here to warrant inclusion. Also, I'm not crazy about the South. Jungle where NO should be? Cotton in Arkansas? Coal in Alabama? Bananas in Florida? Although I do agree about adding dyes, I think they should be in the Carolinas.
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Only Wine in Napa Valley. That's my personal stance.
It's the only wine producing region in the US that matters for the most part.
 
New Orleans is roughly due east of Houston, not northeast. And besides, you can't build Houston, the 5th biggest city in America, with NO in that position.

Okay I guess the bananas are okay then.

2 wine in Cali isn't because of exports. It's because the US (mainly California) produces, not exports, a lot of wine. Sonoma/Napa isn't the only big wine producing part of California. As far as I know there is a lot of production south of San Francisco too.

And lastly, sorry if I came across as a little douchey. I should have worded my previous response better :blush:.
 
Producing doesn't matter, as Civilization only uses 1 resource of wine per civilization.

Houston is still a monster of a city. Look at it again. Cow, spice, fish, cattle, cotton, and lots of plains. Not to mention it stops Mexican influence from going across the river. I think it has a chance to take a corn too.
Putting it on the peninsula would make it a pretty crappy city, and you would have to found a city in Kentucky, which would bog America up with maintenance. It would also strangle both Savannah and New Orleans.

Using the "east not northeast" argument holds "no water" (as TD said a couple weeks ago) because the map is so distorted.

UPDATE: Moved deer west of New Orleans to the peninsula.
Removed banana, put back Miami village

To TD: The wine is currently in Napa Valley, yes
I like the movie Sideways.
 
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