Master Map Change Thread

[The Diocletian]

Nah, I'm 99% sure that for most of the game all Mumbai has in the way of food is a banana and some flood plains.

 

[merijn_v1]

How about this as a compromise?

Semidesert is an overlay over desert - nothing different but graphics
The SoI graphics are used for it on blue marble (because they already match the blue marble graphics)
the regular desert are used when blue marble is not used (in other words, it is invisible)

That way, you don't have to worry about blending it with default terrain.

This should be pretty easy, and not impact gameplay.

Leoreth, what do you think of this?

He already gave you the answer.

If it's a good idea, it doesn't.

BTW, why bringing it up again. Our opinions about semidesert are already explained here. (Don't you remember?)
If you so eager to have semidesert in the game, why don't you make a modcomp yourself?

 

[AtlantaMarty]

He already gave you the answer.




BTW, why bringing it up again. Our opinions about semidesert are already explained here. (Don't you remember?)
If you so eager to have semidesert in the game, why don't you make a modcomp yourself?

It's a shame that nobody else sees the value in my ideas. But, then again, it's their loss.

I haven't made a modcomp because I can't mod. (Or more accurately, I'm almost done with SoI expanded, it was very hard, I needed help from other people many times, and I hated modding so I'm never doing it again. But, on the plus side, It's almost done, and I really like the way it's come out. It should be released within the next couple days. Link is in my signature.)

(PS: I have yet to see anyone actually give a reason Semidesert will hurt DoC)

 

[Leoreth]

(PS: I have yet to see anyone actually give a reason Semidesert will hurt DoC)

Who do you expect to give this reason and why would it matter?

 

[AtlantaMarty]

Who do you expect to give this reason and why would it matter?

Anyone, the only reason not to add something is if it hurts the mod IMHO

 

[Hippo8085]

Or if does not help. Remember Antoine de Saint-Exupéry. And I gave a reason for why it will hurt DoC. Lost time is lost progress.

At some times there is something you may want that is a lost cause unless you wish to do it yourself.

 

[Leoreth]

Anyone, the only reason not to add something is if it hurts the mod IMHO

I disagree.

 

[AtlantaMarty]

Fine. I'll do it myself when 1.12 comes out. How could I do it? (what files would I need to change)
And if I mod it in, Leoreth will you include it in the mod.

 

[Leoreth]

Fine. I'll do it myself when 1.12 comes out. How could I do it? (what files would I need to change)

I've heard that it's a piece of cake as everything you need is already in SoI.

And if I mod it in, Leoreth will you include it in the mod.

... no.

 

[civ_king]

I must admit I find this ardent desire for semideserts somewhat laughable.

 

[AtlantaMarty]

I've heard that it's a piece of cake as everything you need is already in SoI.

I know almost nothing about modding - see the thread in my signature for a 100-post example of that.

I know I need to edit all 3 .CIV4BEYONDSWORDWBSAVE files and the Terrain defines xml. But how do I add the art in (I use Blue Marble, btw)

 

[mrrandomplayer]

Anyone, the only reason not to add something is if it hurts the mod IMHO

That is just downright terrible game design right there. The only reason to add something in a mod is if it will be extremely meaningful to the purpose of the mod/beneficial to game balance, which semidesert is neither.

In terms of game design, there is not enough desert represented in DoC to make semidesert worthwhile (unlike in SoI which DoC is NOT a copy of on a global scale), so it is not worth it for the mod.

Secondly, semidesert would mess up the game balance, assuming it allowed regular movement. Desert restricting movement is crucial because it is much more realistic and removes a strange strength for horse units in desert and makes Camel Archers and such much more realistic. The tile Cape was only added for the sake of game balance, and this is not.

In conclusion, Semidesert accomplishes NOTHING useful for DoC and thus I urge all of you senators to negate this piece of legislation(sorry, I went to a Model Congress tournament all day) everyone to drop the semidesert discussion as it is futile and pointless. Ergo, I am assuming that Leoreth mostly agrees with me here.

 

[Leoreth]

Ergo, I am assuming that Leoreth mostly agrees with me here.

Yeah. Weird that as soon as I'm back to the old avatar I feel like a broken record again.

 

[AtlantaMarty]

fine i give up

 

[Oregon Lee]

and the thread is Citis and mine's again.

Spoiler :

 

[mrrandomplayer]

and the thread is Citis and mine's again.

Spoiler :

Don't I get some credit?

But seriously, there should be one more food resource near Mumbai.

 

[Sanguivorant]

What game is that by the way?

 

[KeeperOT7Keys]

rome total war
aand wow, I've never seen a scipii egypt before

 

[The Diocletian]

And yet again more games I want to play but I can't 'cause I'm poor.

 

[Leoreth]

Don't I get some credit?

But seriously, there should be one more food resource near Mumbai.

As already said, one spawns later on. Fish + banana + corn should be enough.

rome total war
aand wow, I've never seen a scipii egypt before

Scipiones.