MayorS's Civilizations
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Welcome to Civfanatics MayorS - and what a way to start with two civilizations! Do you have anything else planned?
Thanks for the welcome.
The next civilization that I have planed are the Kushan Empire under the leadership of Kanishka the Great.
The next civilization that I have planed are the Kushan Empire under the leadership of Kanishka the Great.
Scapegrace
Obvious Spambot
Ooooh, much excite. Need a hand with ideas for Kushan uniques?
Help will be appreciated. I would put all ideas into consideration.
Some ideas for the Kushans are to base the Civilization around trade and religion. Trade for the Silk Road, and religion for the Kushan involvement in the spread of Buddhism.
Some ideas for the Kushans are to base the Civilization around trade and religion. Trade for the Silk Road, and religion for the Kushan involvement in the spread of Buddhism.
Hiram
XML Plebian
Good to see someone having a go at the Kushans! I have a few things you might find useful:
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Kanishka leader scene (made by Rob (R8XFT))
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That's a good idea for the Kushans DZastr22, but it is a little to complex for me to do now without going deep into Lua. There still is going to be trade focus uniques for the Kushans.
Here is my UA idea: Begram Treasure
The Kushan have an unique Palace that have two Great Work of Art Slot, and provide +2
Faith. Your trade routes spread the home city's religion twice as effectively.
The Begram Treasure is a Palace for the Kushans that contains great works of art from across the known world most notable Greek and Chinese Works. the Palace also has a theming bonus when you have works from two different Civilizations. The faith idea comes from the Buddhist Council and the Gandhara school of Greco-Buddhist art. and the trade route spread religion more effectively is for the silk road which helped spread Buddhism.
This UA gives the Kushans an advantage when its comes to the religion and culture game early on.
Thanks for the Art Hiram
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Here is my UA idea: Begram Treasure
The Kushan have an unique Palace that have two Great Work of Art Slot, and provide +2
Faith. Your trade routes spread the home city's religion twice as effectively.The Begram Treasure is a Palace for the Kushans that contains great works of art from across the known world most notable Greek and Chinese Works. the Palace also has a theming bonus when you have works from two different Civilizations. The faith idea comes from the Buddhist Council and the Gandhara school of Greco-Buddhist art. and the trade route spread religion more effectively is for the silk road which helped spread Buddhism.
This UA gives the Kushans an advantage when its comes to the religion and culture game early on.
Thanks for the Art Hiram
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Here is the Map
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Scapegrace
Obvious Spambot
So, here's what I've managed to come up with for the Kushan uniques:
The Kushan Empire (Kanishka)
Start Bias: Plains
UA: Yagbu Vassalage
Gain a permanent +5% bonus to
Food, 
Culture, and Faith generation in the 
Capital whenever you annexe a captured City-State. International Trade Routes emanating from your Cities apply double Religious Pressure.
UU: Yu-Chi Footman (replaces Pikeman)
Starts with Charge and a unique promotion, "Hellenic Indians", which grants it a +25%
Combat Bonus when stood next to another Yu-Chi Hoplon. May be purchased with Faith for half the usual price.
UU: Kshatriya (replaces Knight)
Starts with a unique promotion, "Bactrian Code", that grants a +10% Combat Bonus after killing an enemy unit. The bonus lasts 10 turns on Standard Game Pace, but is not reset with additional kills; rather, each subsequent kill increases the bonus by +5%.
The Kushan Empire (Kanishka)
Start Bias: Plains
UA: Yagbu Vassalage
Gain a permanent +5% bonus to
Food, Culture, and Faith generation in the Capital whenever you annexe a captured City-State. International Trade Routes emanating from your Cities apply double Religious Pressure.UU: Yu-Chi Footman (replaces Pikeman)
Starts with Charge and a unique promotion, "Hellenic Indians", which grants it a +25%
Combat Bonus when stood next to another Yu-Chi Hoplon. May be purchased with Faith for half the usual price.UU: Kshatriya (replaces Knight)
Starts with a unique promotion, "Bactrian Code", that grants a +10%
Combat Bonus after killing an enemy unit. The bonus lasts 10 turns on Standard Game Pace, but is not reset with additional kills; rather, each subsequent kill increases the bonus by +5%.
Viregel
, The Rt. Hon.
You can't reduce the Faith Cost of things without wrecking the DLL, last time I checked. Anyway, a lot of that looks pretty complex to code. Also, while it's obviously focused on war as its primary thing-it's-good-at, I feel as if it's still a bit over the place.
AW Arcaeca
Deus Vult
Tell me Viregel, are you familiar with a <Buildings> and <Units> column called <FaithCost>?
Viregel
, The Rt. Hon.
Yes I am - I've always had a strange feeling that might be incorrect, but I've always been lead to believe it won't work (somehow).
Scapegrace
Obvious Spambot
Well, yeah, it is a bit all over the place. The Kushan Empire was a bit all over the place as well.
See, what I was trying to do was balance their competing cultural influences. The Kushan Empire was sandwiched between the Hellenic world and the Indian subcontinent; indeed, the later Emperors started putting "Soter Magna" on the coins, and there are contemporaneous reports of the original Yu-chi tactics (massed horse archers) being phased out in favour of hoplite-esque footsoldiery and cataphracts. Okay, the reports in question come from Buddhist religious texts, so who knows how accurate they are. However, the really tricky part is that the Empire was effectively a vast network of tributary states that fielded their own armies, including (again, according to those pesky Buddhist religious texts) war chariots, armoured elephants, and mercenaries from the hill tribes and the Saca and Iran and all sorts of places. It was a truly cosmopolitan empire...
And therefore a big fat headache for any poor sod trying to summarize Kushan military history for the benefit of a computer game.
I was trying to make a Civ that's built around doing what you don't tend to do on higher difficulties, that being the annexation of City-States by force of arms. The Kushan setup, which I've just touched upon, makes that seem legit, and I like Civs that focus upon building your Capital up to glorious heights. Maybe the Kshatriya could be changed, to be more Faith-oriented, Iunno, but I could sure use some help with these ideas. =]
See, what I was trying to do was balance their competing cultural influences. The Kushan Empire was sandwiched between the Hellenic world and the Indian subcontinent; indeed, the later Emperors started putting "Soter Magna" on the coins, and there are contemporaneous reports of the original Yu-chi tactics (massed horse archers) being phased out in favour of hoplite-esque footsoldiery and cataphracts. Okay, the reports in question come from Buddhist religious texts, so who knows how accurate they are. However, the really tricky part is that the Empire was effectively a vast network of tributary states that fielded their own armies, including (again, according to those pesky Buddhist religious texts) war chariots, armoured elephants, and mercenaries from the hill tribes and the Saca and Iran and all sorts of places. It was a truly cosmopolitan empire...
And therefore a big fat headache for any poor sod trying to summarize Kushan military history for the benefit of a computer game.
I was trying to make a Civ that's built around doing what you don't tend to do on higher difficulties, that being the annexation of City-States by force of arms. The Kushan setup, which I've just touched upon, makes that seem legit, and I like Civs that focus upon building your Capital up to glorious heights. Maybe the Kshatriya could be changed, to be more Faith-oriented, Iunno, but I could sure use some help with these ideas. =]
Scapegrace
Obvious Spambot
Reworked the Kshatriya:
UU: Kshatriya (replaces Knight)
Starts with Cover I and a unique promotion, "Indian Kataphraktoi", that allows it to generate Culture and Faith whenever it is used to capture a City. Gains 1 XP per turn when garrisoned in the Capital, up to a maximum of 30 XP. Retains all abilities upon upgrading to Cavalry.
In the quite astoundingly unlikely event that someone's interested in this, the Kshatriya warrior caste genuinely does derive its name from the Kushan Empire. Since the famed heavy cavalry of the Kushans was largely made up of noblemen and since TP's Blackfoot Civ is a proof of concept, I decided to nab the "Gain XP per turn if stood on this spot", nerf it a bit, and give it to the Kshatriya. It also synergises with the UA quite nicely, which I think was Viregel's biggest concern.
Having said that, I've absolutely no idea how you'd code all this. That's your job. =]
UU: Kshatriya (replaces Knight)
Starts with Cover I and a unique promotion, "Indian Kataphraktoi", that allows it to generate
Culture and Faith whenever it is used to capture a City. Gains 1 XP per turn when garrisoned in the Capital, up to a maximum of 30 XP. Retains all abilities upon upgrading to Cavalry.In the quite astoundingly unlikely event that someone's interested in this, the Kshatriya warrior caste genuinely does derive its name from the Kushan Empire. Since the famed heavy cavalry of the Kushans was largely made up of noblemen and since TP's Blackfoot Civ is a proof of concept, I decided to nab the "Gain XP per turn if stood on this spot", nerf it a bit, and give it to the Kshatriya. It also synergises with the UA quite nicely, which I think was Viregel's biggest concern.
Having said that, I've absolutely no idea how you'd code all this. That's your job. =]
Skaz881
History Major
Do you by any chance have an interest in other Ancient Indian Civilizations? I made a Kamarupa for personal use but I'd love to see another take on it.
Skaz881
History Major
Actually, for that you should check out Anno Domini BNW edition, since that's where I adapted it from. The Uniques there were a Trireme and a Temple replacement (Plava and Lingam). http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=524019
