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McCain's flourishing list of flip flops.

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Princeps, Aug 17, 2008.

  1. Princeps

    Princeps More bombs than God

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  2. Archbob

    Archbob Ancient CFC Guardian

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    He's a politician, he pans for votes.

    I could very ask Obama the same thing. He's "changed his mind" on more than a few issues.
     
  3. Abaddon

    Abaddon Deity

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    Lets Google fight them to find out!
     
  4. Evie

    Evie Pronounced like Eevee

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    Strange how when it's a republican politician, he pans for votes or refines his position, but when it was Kerry, he was an evil flip-flopper.
     
  5. skadistic

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    Thats great. Lets put up a list of Obama's. Then we can see who is running on a platform of hope and change. Hope and change does not mean changing their position but changing the way politics works. Hope and change would mean not doing the typical centrist movement of changing your position to get votes.
     
  6. Norseone

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    One of my family members has recently made me aware that Obama has shifted his position on gay marriage...he is now against it. She doesnt like this much. I dont think Obama has flip flopped less than mccain.
     
  7. Oerdin

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    Come on! The guy has flip flopped on EVERYTHING.
     
  8. Norseone

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    as has obama...he is appparently now a social conservative.
     
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    Godwynn March to the Sea

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    Welcome to American Politics!

    Pick up a tube of lube on your way in and hope it doesn't hurt too much.
     
  10. Princeps

    Princeps More bombs than God

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    Well, Obama hasn't flipped flopped anywhere near the same scale McCain has.

    And also, in cases like the oil-drilling flip flop, he provided a fairly good explanation.
     
  11. MobBoss

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    At least the guy knows how many states we have. I wonder if Obama has hit that 58th state yet.....

    And by all means you folks make sure you check that air in your tires...might save the planet...
     
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    If you can't deal with people who have brain farts, you might as well stay home on voting day. Everyone has them.

    Unless you want to claim Obama's campaign plan involve creating 8 new states out of the USA.
     
  13. Princeps

    Princeps More bombs than God

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    Wow, he said 58 instead of 48! That's obviously a huge plunder.

    And as for inflating the tires. Even McCain has stated that he doesn't disagree.
     
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    Well, where else do you think he can put the Jews at to appease Iran? :lol:
     
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    how has Obama not flipp flopped as much as McCain? He is now against gay marraige, possibly against late term abortion, for wire tapping, for drilling offshore. Plus he is for giving money to religious organizations, something he didnt make clear before the general election. He has completely changed his opinions on nearly everything. All he has stayed constant on is iraq, but now bush is adopting his opinion on that so it doesnt even matter. Obama now is McCain on everything but taxes and abortion.
     
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    Maybe thats what he meant by "change".
     
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    MobBoss Off-Topic Overlord

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    Dont forget he went from 'having all the troops out in 6 months' to 'maintaining bases in Iraq'.
     
  18. Princeps

    Princeps More bombs than God

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    Nope. Nothing I have read or seen indicates that he has ever been against gay marriage (or other equivalent arrangement). But do link.

    Possibly? Last time I checked he says he trusts "the woman's right to choose".

    That's the only serious betrayal that I know he has made.

    Yes, but that was reasonable. And he explained it.

    That's not a flip flop really. Most Americans are religious anyway, so I doubt he could survive without the occasional nod toward the faith based.

    No he hasn't. Obama has about few flip flops, McCain has 60.

    Which is one of the foremost issues. He has remained pretty consistent on that from the beginning, actually.

    And the economy.
     
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    Uh...Princeps...we have 50 states....:lol:
     
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    Obama no different from any other politician, neither is McCain. Not sure why the Obama fanboys have to insist he's a straight-talker.
     

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