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Elgalad
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Jawz II said:you dont like clintons policy?
he was very right wing for a democrat, pluse look at what he did for america while he was pres, america has never been riched than then!
any look at GWB, i dont think america has been poorer in the past 50 years than now, ok maybe the reagan years
No, dont get me wrong. President Clinton was the best thing to happen to the Republican party in the last 50 years!
Who else could have so effectively managed to complete the Right wing takeover of Congress and the Senate, as well as the White House? But what I was referring to policy-wise, was primarily the health care fiasco, the tax increases, and failed international policy adventures (aspirin factory, black hawk down, Haiti, Chinese rocket tech, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc)
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Pardon me but what are exactly the etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc (six etc)?Elgalad said:No, dont get me wrong. President Clinton was the best thing to happen to the Republican party in the last 50 years!
But what I was referring to policy-wise, was primarily the health care fiasco, the tax increases, and failed international policy adventures (aspirin factory, black hawk down, Haiti, Chinese rocket tech, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc)
-Elgalad
Jawz II
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yeah but the military disasters dont even come close to 1/100 of iraq!
also, they happened because people alot lower down the food chain messed up, example, i bet the guy that planned the somali thing is still in the military, now working for GWB!
it was failure in tactic, not strategy!
and strategy is the presidents job
also, they happened because people alot lower down the food chain messed up, example, i bet the guy that planned the somali thing is still in the military, now working for GWB!
it was failure in tactic, not strategy!
and strategy is the presidents job
MarineCorps
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Jawz II said:
No it's not. Thats the job of the military. Presidents (even former miltary) wouldn't know a good strategy if it hit them in the face.
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MarineCorps said:
Does that include George Washington?
Jawz II
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so youre saying invading iraq wasnt dubyas decision?
arent you 12 years old by the way?
i though i saw a picture of you in the members picture thread, if youre under 15 dont talk to me
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arent you 12 years old by the way?
i though i saw a picture of you in the members picture thread, if youre under 15 dont talk to me
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MarineCorps
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Jawz II said:so youre saying invading iraq wasnt dubyas decision?
arent you 12 years old by the way?
i though i saw a picture of you in the members picture thread, if youre under 15 dont talk to me
I am 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I have not posted in the members picture thread!
Jawz II
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dont burst a vein or sumthin
17 whole years, wow, my misstake!!!
trust me on this, 10 years from now, most likely you will look back and think to yourself,wow i didnt know crap when i was 17!
i know i do!
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17 whole years, wow, my misstake!!!
trust me on this, 10 years from now, most likely you will look back and think to yourself,wow i didnt know crap when i was 17!
i know i do!
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Either that, or he'll look back and say 'That Jawz guy didn't know anything even though he was older than me...'
Seriously, telling someone they don't know **** because they are younger than you isn't a way to argue. Prove your point, Jawz, don't just tell him he's 'too young'. It makes your side of the arguement look bad... Especially when the younger guy comes off smarter than you do...
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Seriously, telling someone they don't know **** because they are younger than you isn't a way to argue. Prove your point, Jawz, don't just tell him he's 'too young'. It makes your side of the arguement look bad... Especially when the younger guy comes off smarter than you do...
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Jawz II
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oh no!
what should i do now?
i wasnt trying to flame him, i wanna debate and discuss, not inform people about stuff they should already know all the time, plus i meant him not knowing much about life in general (at least not as much as he will know in 10 years time), not just facts in this debate!
not many 17 year olds do, theres nothing wrong with that,you live and learn! just that i dont wanna write stuff that is common knowledge all the time
for example, president gets to decide wether to attack and invade a certain country, for example iraq, not generals!!
sure, its the generals that have to plan the attack in detail, since they are the ones who went to west point and military academys and know weapon systems and etc etc and not the politician type president, but the big important decision (attack or not attack) is with the pres
the pres is the commander in chief or the whatchucallit? hes the big kahuna, alright marine guy?
see all this stuff i typed?
thats what i wanted to avoid!
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what should i do now?
i wasnt trying to flame him, i wanna debate and discuss, not inform people about stuff they should already know all the time, plus i meant him not knowing much about life in general (at least not as much as he will know in 10 years time), not just facts in this debate!
not many 17 year olds do, theres nothing wrong with that,you live and learn! just that i dont wanna write stuff that is common knowledge all the time
for example, president gets to decide wether to attack and invade a certain country, for example iraq, not generals!!
sure, its the generals that have to plan the attack in detail, since they are the ones who went to west point and military academys and know weapon systems and etc etc and not the politician type president, but the big important decision (attack or not attack) is with the pres
the pres is the commander in chief or the whatchucallit? hes the big kahuna, alright marine guy?
see all this stuff i typed?
thats what i wanted to avoid!
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I know that he is the one that makes that call not the military. However thats not stratgey. President says if an invasion will happen, Military says when that invaison will happen.Jawz II said:
Jawz II said:
Yes he is the commander in Chief. But that is so the military report to the civvies in charge of this nation.
Jawz II
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thats not the point, what me and elgalad were discussing was clintons record vs dubyas!
he mentioned the somalia thing and a few other incidents and i was pointing out to him that dubyas decision to invade iraq has led to loss of many lives, cost money and damaged americas reputation on a global scale and is there fore alot bigger a disaster!
now, we can debate all day wether his descision should be called "a part of his strategy" in the "war on terror" or something else
thats just not the point!!
see? i just dont like to explain stuff like this
now you could argue that the iraq war has been good for this or that, but what to call his decision to start the war is irrelevant
he mentioned the somalia thing and a few other incidents and i was pointing out to him that dubyas decision to invade iraq has led to loss of many lives, cost money and damaged americas reputation on a global scale and is there fore alot bigger a disaster!
now, we can debate all day wether his descision should be called "a part of his strategy" in the "war on terror" or something else
thats just not the point!!
see? i just dont like to explain stuff like this
now you could argue that the iraq war has been good for this or that, but what to call his decision to start the war is irrelevant
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