One thing we need to do is discuss with CGN their feelings about the apparent CGA/GWT alliance. While CGN has already used its UU, I am sure that GWT and CGA are very close to their UU's -- the Ansar Warrior(4.2.3) and the War Elephant(4.3.2 - no resources needed) respectively(thanks for the corrections, guys....was going by memory ). If GWT shows GCA even more generosity by giving them more cities, CGN is in a very precarious position. We need to talk three-way alliance with CGN and Poly very soon, if not immediately. If the rogue alliance of GWT and GCA get the best of CGN, this game will be all but over. Now to respond to some concerns: Cheetah, you pretty much answered your own concern here. My goal is to plan this out so we won't have to scramble before it is too late. If there is anything we should have learned, it is that GCA cannot be trusted in any way shape or form, and keeping them in the game will be a huge mistake. Unfortunately, they are protected by an aggressive GWT which makes this entire scenario impossible for us to handle alone. We will need all three other nations to comply to effort. Most definitely, Peri. We are in talks with CGN regarding a trade for Chivalry and I still feel that we can secure this tech and maybe more by offering an alliance. This is pretty much my intention here, Boots. My apologies if I did not make myself clear. Given the mercurial nature of GCA, I think a surgical removal of their new cities would be quite foolish. We would have to remove the host(GWT) as well as the parasite.