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Minnesota State Gov. Shuts Down

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by KMRblue1027, Jul 2, 2011.

  1. KMRblue1027

    KMRblue1027 The Crown!

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    http://news.yahoo.com/minnesota-government-shutdown-begins-talks-fail-003516875.html

    I'm honestly surprised that no one had posted about this sooner. Apparently the Dem. Governor rejected a Republican plan so the state is closed. Any thoughts on this? A glimpse of the future if this happens to the federal government?
     
  2. Chazumi

    Chazumi Trained& Motivated Killer

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    This almost happened like 3 months ago to the federal government...

    Either way a great time to go out and get your illegal fishing and hunting in. Dynamite anyone?
     
  3. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    Yes, it is Republican hypocracy. Dayton was elected with a quite clear intent to balence the budget by raising the income tax by a little bit on the top 2% of Minnesotans. Now the Republicans are acting all 'the Minnesota people don't want this, it kills jobs' and more crap like that. Thankfully, the GOP Speaker looks very good for the job and is quite moderate, but he is limited by the extremists he is unable to control well.
    Now Dayton is moving away from the income tax increase, and is considering with the Republicans a plan to cover the deficit with fee increases and increased cuts, all of which will affect the poor and middle class the most. Due to the shutdown, many Republicans are trying to force in measures that had already been removed from the tentative budget bill, such as bans on same-sex marriage and abortion restrictions.
    It is a mess, especialy over July 4th weekend with all of the state parks closed along with agencies that recieve state funds (such as the Zoo and History Center). This really affects the History Center as they have a fairly massive July 4th celebration at the nearby Civil War era fort.
    If the federal government shuts down, it would be worse as they have neither moderate speakers, a executive who is more likely to capitulate, and they aren't as liberal as Minnesota.

    I wouldn't try that. Law enforcement is one of the few areas that has had little to no cuts by the interim judge.
     
  4. amadeus

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    First, Minnesota has a biennial budget, just to clear up any possible confusion.

    Second, Minnesota's state government spent $31.1 billion for the 2010-2011 budget. Governor Dayton initially proposed $39 billion, over a 25% increase in state spending over two years. Now Dayton has the budget down to $37 billion, a 19% increase. The Republicans have put forward a more modest proposal of $34 billion, a 9% increase, with no tax hikes.

    It's insanity. Dayton wants more taxes, a new bracket on people earning above $150,000. The new bracket would give Minnesotans the highest top tax bracket in the country. Of course, we know what happens when punitive taxes are levied: taxpayers leave.

    Even here in perennial-Democrat leaning Minnesota, Dayton doesn't have the popular support necessary to force the GOP to fold. The GOP won sweeping victories in the state last year and they now hold majorities in both chambers, leading to the deadlock we're in. Unlike the GOP sweep though, Dayton won only a marginal victory over GOP candidate Emmer (by a .4% margin.)

    The result? I hope the GOP holds out and Dayton folds.
     
  5. Tani Coyote

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    Well, as Minnesota falls apart at the seams, we Americans will be able to get a glimpse of what would have happened had the federal government, a much wealthier, far more encompassing body, also shut down, and why it's insane to endorse any such shutdown rather than, you know, work on the issues while at the same time keeping things running smoothly.

    Cold turkey doesn't work; you need to wean people off the drug of government, not starve them of it.

    Thank God that has a much harder time happening on the national level or the Democratic Party's fiscal platform would fall apart.
     
  6. Godwynn

    Godwynn March to the Sea

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    Are the politicians still getting their paychecks?

    If it's in the article, I didn't read it.
     
  7. SG-17

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    The rich need to be taxed much more anyway. So do corporations as long as they insist on being people (which is just a blatant lie).
     
  8. Perfection

    Perfection The Great Head.

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    Yes, they are.
     
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    Best of luck to all Minnesotans out there.
     
  10. Perfection

    Perfection The Great Head.

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    Well, to be fair, Dayton won with 43.6% of the vote...
     
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    Emmer came down with a terrible case of foot-in-mouth disease some months before the election and many voters soured to that.
     
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    The domino effect comes to mind.
     
  14. pi-r8

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    If they have a AAA bond rating, why do they need such drastic deficit-reduction measures?
     
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    Operating the government on a deficit is prohibited by the state constitution.
     
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    This is my thought exactly. He clearly lacks any sort of mandate. In the end this was quite predictable. We elected parties to govern that ran on completely opposite strategies. We as voters have also shown the tendecy to punish those who compromise. The only thing surprising to me was that Dayton didn't call a special session.
     
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    Then I guess this is a good example of why it's silly for states to pass balanced-budget amendments.
     
  18. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    I'm willing to bet they've done end runs around that in a number of ways.
     
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    Are the citizens upset that there is no government? If so, are the Randians being rounded up and shot?
     
  20. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    Yes they have, including refusing to pay schools by deffering payments and all sorts of shady accounting practices.
     

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