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[Civ2] Missing Final Fantasy, Dune, Starcraft, & Dawn of the Dead scenarios on Dustin Dunn's Civ2 Site

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  1. Blake00

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    EDIT:
    This thread has gone from just being about a couple of missing scenarios on Dustin's Civ2 site to being about a whole lot of missing long lost scenarios that I've come across while working on my Civilization series scenario search & rescue project and my Civ2 scenario multi site preservation project. Someone very kindly donated Dustin's collection to me rescuing most of the missing scenarios in the list below however there are still more out there missing.

    If people want to help but don't want to fluff about searching through your old collections looking for these scenarios then they are also very VERY welcome to donate their entire scenario collections to me to search for these lost scenarios in and also sort out and add to my main preservation project. I have setup some publicly accessible cloud storage with several gigabytes free that anyone can just drag and drop files into (literally it's that easy) so if you have an old CD or hard drive somewhere filled with scenarios from long gone websites and would like to donate please let me know and I'll PM you the link to my cloud. You will be publicly praised and credited for helping me or should you wish to remain anonymous that's no problem either. :)

    One of the big Civ2 super sites still missing from the preservation collection is Whistler's (Kunal Shah) SidGames and it's hosted satellite sites like Civ2 Ziggurat, Jorrit's Civ2 Site, Markus's Ultimate/Planet Civ2, and Civ2 Scifilization which all had their own scenario collections with quite a few rarities that never made it to Poly or CFC. From what I can tell none of them survived Sidgames's rather sudden disappearance and webarchive didn't backup any of the downloads. Now that we've got Apolyton (& it's satellites), CivFanatics Atomic, and Dustin Dunns DSquared Zandanian League site it means SidGames (& it's satellites) really is the last super site missing from the Civ2 preservation project. So if anyone out there has content from those SidGames sites or a way to contact Whistler I'm all ears!!

    MISSING:
    • Alpha Centauri Modpack v1.5 by Carlos Alb. Romero Díaz - AlphaC15.zip (795kb) Source1
    • German Babylon 5 by unknown - baby5.zip Source1
    • (Star Wars) Battle of Hoth by unknown – hoth.zip (1.55M) (not Brandon Dunaway one) Source1
    • (Star Wars) Battle at the Hoth System by J.Bélanger – hoth.zip (478kb) (not Brandon Dunaway one) Source1
    • Star Wars Rebellion by C. Kerdrain – rebellion.zip (1.3mb) Source1
    • Star Trek 7of9 (Voyager) by St Leo – stleo_7of9.zip / stleo_7of9snd.zip Source1 Source2
    • Fallout for Civilization by Par VahadarSource1
    FOUND:
    • Alpha Centauri by John Mavin – Centauri.zip Source1
    • Battle of Endor by Markus – Endor.zip (351kb) (not josh adams one) Source1
    • Star Wars by Ambra – starwars.zip (2.5mb) or st_1 and 2 zips Source1
    • Moonland 3.0 by Frederic Meunié – mlv3main.zip / mlv3snd.zip Source1
    • Star Trek: Mission on Vesta by Dirk Weber - trekv2_0.zip (636kb) Source1 Source2
    • Command & Conquer 2 by unknown - cc2_scn.zip Source1
    • SOUND FILES for The Martian Scenario by James Thomson – martia49sound.zip Source1
    • SOUND FILES for Star Trek Wars Scenario by Joseph Santurri – STWSound.zip
    • Master of Orion Jr 4 by Jeelen / Agent327 Source1 Source2 Source3
    • Star Trek First Contact (Kob ST-BAQ Redo) by Jeelen / Agent327 – first_contact.7z (1.8mb) Source1
    • Star Trek Voyager by Jeelen / Agent327 – voyager.7z (1.3mb) Source1
    • Star Trek Dominion War (Kob ST-DW Redo) by Jeelen / Agent327 – warp_9.7z (1.9mb) Source1
    • Star Trek TNG by Jeelen / Agent327 – tng.7z (3.1mb) Source1
    • Star Wars The Dagobah System by Filip Carlsson - star.zip Source1
    • Final Fantasy II/IV Modpack by Frank Johnson – ff2damod.zip (225kb) / ffsound1.zip (267kb) / ffsound2.zip (337kb) / ffsound3.zip (338kb) / ffsound4.zip (477kb) Source1
    • Final Fantasy NES Civ by Jim N. / Jomb – FFciv.zip (208kb) Source1
    • Starcraft: Terran War by aland007 - terran.zip (1mb) Source1
    • Dune - Pour L'epice! by N.Chautru – dune.zip (246kb) (Puor L'epice! = For the spice!) Source1
    • Dune - The Battle for Arrakis 1.0 by Isaac Ashdown – dune.zip (163kb) (not David Emery's Battle for Arrakis) Source1
    • Sands of Dune by James Dahl – dune.zip (293kb) Source1
    • Dawn / Day of the Dead by Blackclove / Peter F. Delaney – dawndead.zip (203kb) / deadsnd.zip (503kb) Source1 Source2 Source3
    • Orion (Alpha Centauri) by unknown- orion.zip Source1
    • (Star Wars) TATOOINE by J. Bélanger – tatooine.zip (71kb) (not Justin Giles one or Chris & Steve's one) Source1
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    It's a cruel world lol..

    There probably isn't a hope in hell that anyone will have these but I'll try anyway...

    I'm in the middle of a Civ2 lost websites search side project as part of my bigger Civ scenario hunting work to feature in a video series. I located a webarchive backup of an old Civ2 website called The Zandanian League by @dsquared (it was also described as 'Dustin Dunn's Civ2 Site' in the link to it). This long lost site hosted a number of scenarios not found in any other repository I've searched through. Some of them relate to topics of great interest to me!

    I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan especially the retro SNES/Super Nintendo ones and so I've been keeping an eye out for Civilization 2 scenarios based on it. Other than a vanilla Civ2 scenario with no changed graphics or sounds I'd found nothing in all the big repositories I've searched through. Yet on this site sits a full total conversion Final Fantasy 4 (2 in US) modpack for Civ2 (FOUND) by a fellow named Frank Johnson. As you can see in the surviving picture the trees, grass and hills are taken directly from the original game as well as the units and even the friggin cities are built from castles and villages you'd find on the world map. But of course this modpacks main download and 4 sound downloads were not backed up by webarchive.. such a shame that something this cool is likely lost forever.. :(

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    Then just as I'm reeling from that painful discovery I then visit his scenarios section to find that there is a Starcraft scenario called Starcraft Terran War (FOUND) by aland007. I'm also a big Starcraft fan and have been hunting for any scenarios or modpacks related to it and was surprised to find none considering it's a late 90s game with 2.5D isometric graphics that would convert in pretty well. Now sure enough it appears someone did.. and of course the bloody download for that is not backed up either lol. Even the screenshot wasn't backed up so I don't know how good it is, however the site describes it as having "new graphics".

    I don't suppose by some flukey chance that someone here has these?

    I notice there are emails for these guys posted.. long shot after 20 years but I guess it's worth a shot to email them and see what happens.. but yeah.. not holding my breath!
     
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    I wonder what happened to Dustin Dunn / DSquared .. his Civ2 site was huuuuge.. is gonna take me a while to finish going through all his pages. Such a shame none of his stuff got backed up!

    ah man.. there's also 3 Dune scenarios on his site that appear to be different from the Dune scenario I've found elsewhere and already know about.

    Sands of Dune by James Dahl (FOUND)
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    Dune - Pour L'epice! by N.Chautru (FOUND)
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    The Battle for Arrakis 1.0 by Isaac Ashdown (FOUND)
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    They're about 3/4 down this page:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20030829213113/http://dsquared.fiwh.com/civ2/scenlist/d/d.php

    No screenshots (other than those maps) and wow.. no luck.. dustin links to the authors homepages.. I find their backups and go to their downloads sections and while some of the other downloads work fine but the dune ones fail.. coooommmoooon... give me something universe haha
     
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    Many things from the classic internet era are lost for ever, dude - It's just a sad fact of life.
     
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    Yeah I know mate, I've got next to no friggin chance finding these.. need a bloody time machine :lol:

    However I've recused so many long lost mods & scenarios now that I've learned there's no harm in trying and asking around as you just never know who has a copy of something. Just the other day someone replied to one of my posts asking about an old Starflight fan game demo posted 20 years ago on a long dead forum and offered me a copy lol, couldn't believe it! Another good one was when fellow on a German site came forward last year with a Civ3 scenario that had been missing for 10 years and I'd been posting about for 2 years but no one seemed to have it lol.

    I've been trying to post this post below all day but I've been having massive internet problems preventing me from attaching the image [EDIT: Fixed!].

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    UPDATES:

    Found another copy of Dune - Pour L'epice! by N.Chautru posted on a French Civ2 site I found during my ongoing Civ2 lost websites search but surprise surprise.. download failed there too lol.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20010422045027/http://www.multimania.com/meuh/civ2/scenar/sf.htm

    Posted around lots of Civ forums and social media groups about these 5 scenarios but am not holding my breath of course. I did get a couple of leads of interest though..

    Spoke with @Solver who's always super helpful with my ongoing rescue work (cheers mate :) ) and he went through his archives and confirmed that these files never made their way to Poly's servers sadly.. however he then went above and beyond and managed to locate a very old archived conversation over at Poly about Frank's FF4 mod for Civ2:
    https://apolyton.net/forum/miscella...creation-archive/98022-final-fantasy-scenario

    In that thread a member named Elok also talks about making his own FF mod for Civ2 (great.. now there's possibly friggin 3 FF scenarios out there I can't find now lol) so I did my own Poly search for any FF posts by Elok and that lead to another ancient Final Fantasy Civ2 poly thread where once again Franks mod was discussed but that time it was by our resident Civ2 guru @techumseh ! (ironically calling the mod ancient even back then haha).
    https://apolyton.net/forum/miscella...chive/92957-ff-scenario-a-survey-for-interest

    I can see Elok is still active at Poly so I've PM'd him and crossed my fingers. As he seems like a huge FF fan like I am, so hopefully he still has a copy of his FF mod, Franks FF mod or Jomb's FF mod! @techumseh I know that posting a link to a mod and downloading a mod for yourself are 2 different things haha but if you did grab a copy for yourself all those years ago and it's laying around on a drive somewhere of if you or any of the other veterans here know of a way to reach DSquared Dustin let me know! But yeah.. 20 years.. I know I don't have a hope in hell of finding these again as no one will have them.. but I had to try heh. If Techumseh and Elok both say no go then that'll be it for this hunt unless of course someone else shows up like 2 years from now, sees one of my threads and says "Oh I've still got that" :lol:

    PS Oh and I've also done a thorough Final Fantasy search of the Civ2+child forums here at CFC too but didn't find anything about these scenarios sadly. Although I did find an interesting conversation over in the SL forums between
    @JPetroski and @Broken_Erika a year or 2 ago about making either a Final Fantasy 6 (3 in US) scenario or a Final Fantasy 7 one for ToT. So @JPetroski if you're still pondering that FF6 idea then something else I found on Dustin's site might interest you as it looks like he did up a whole set of FF6 units (looks like he exported and converted possibly all of them!) and thankfully webarchive backed up the file. I think they're MGE though so probably not good enough quality wise for a new ToT scenario but figured I'd mention it in case it helps inspire the mind!
    https://web.archive.org/web/20060516104251/http://dsquared.fiwh.com/civ2/downloads.php
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    If you ever do end up taking on that project let me know as maybe by then I will have finished all my never ending projects and will have more free time to help out on it, or at the very least play it and promote it out there! :)

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    UPDATES:
    My catalogging of lost Civ2 website backups continues and I managed to find a site called SciFilization which specialised in Scifi Civ2 Scenarios and was hosted at Sidgames giving it it's own download file hosting that had the Starcraft scenario and 2 of the 3 Dune scenarios! But yeah.. once again downloads not backed up by Webarchive.. so close but so far.. especially as I used to be a member of the sidgames forums back in 1999 and chatted a couple of times with it's 'infamous' owner Whistler.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000903074847/http://scifi.sidgames.com/other.cfm

    I also notice both this site and Dustin's have a Dawn of the Dead scenario too that is apparently a full total conversion zombie survival scenario set in the US where you have a small by powerful force surviving against a huge hoard of zombies. No sign of its files in Poly backups, here at CFC (other than some forums posts where people talk about how great it is) or anywhere else so that's another cool one I'll have to chalk in as lost forever too.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20021116191412/http://dsquared.fiwh.com/civ2/scenlist/d/d.php
    https://web.archive.org/web/20000903074949/http://scifi.sidgames.com/genscifi.cfm
    https://web.archive.org/web/2000052...imesSquare/Chamber/1550/Previews/daydead.html
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    And finally I also spoke to Elok over at Poly, he confirmed he did indeed have the Final Fantasy 4 modpack but that the computer died so his copy was lost long ago.

    So yup.. I think that's it for these ones unless someone comes forward on one of the forums I've posted about them at. You win some you lose some haha!

    EDIT: There's also a few more rare scenarios I've found on an old German Civilization 2 website called Civ 2 Paradise by Willi Gross:
    - A German Babylon 5 scenario (so presumably different to the 2 English ones I know of)
    - A English Star Wars - The Dagobah System scenario (FOUND)
    - A English Orion - Alpha Centauri scenario (FOUND)
    - A English Alpha Centauri scenario (no description but possibly just the regular Alpha Centuari scenario also on Apolyton). (FOUND)

    Considering these seem to only be on a German Civ2 site there's even less chance of finding them lol. But I've created a thread over on the German Civ2 forums about these just in case and will leave it at that.

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    So close! Glad you're doing this, I'll be following your work with great interest!
     
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    Thanks man! :)

    SCORE! I believe I've obtained one of the rare Alpha Centauri scenarios I mentioned above and more lost treasures! How it all went down was pretty flukey lol!

    While doing the recent Civ 2 websites archive search side project (hunting for more rare scenarios of interest to me) I found this old Geocities Civ2 site by a guy named John Mavin:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20050216065438/http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Realm/8827/civii.htm

    His scenarios page seemed to be filled with scenarios he made that weren't anywhere else. Some of the names may look familiar but you'll probably find that the ones you're thinking of were made by other people and not this guy. What of course stood out to me was that he'd made a Alpha Centauri one as that's one of my big main scenario hunt search & rescue project categories. Like in the above situations I held my breath and clicked on the download links hoping webarchive had the files but sure enough they all failed... was devo!

    However as I moved through the different years of webarchive backups of his site I found that John had later replaced his Civ2 site with a blog about some novels he was writing. It turns out the novels became successful and I discovered his blog still exists nowadays elsewhere. And because he's a successful writer he's got social media pages where he updates his fans on all his latest works! So I thought scr*w it, I've got nothing to lose by asking so I msged him on his facebook page and asked if he still has his scenarios lol.

    Within a few hours he'd gotten back to me to say HE DOES! He even thanked me for messaging him as he thought no one cared about those Civ2 scenarios and would ever message him about them lol. I was like no man, thank YOU for making these and allowing me to preserve and share them with the community after all these years! :)

    Great moments like that are why I do this crazy stuff haha! As every now and then you actually DO find the treasure lol!... Actual treasure and not trash haha!!

    I have of course tested each one of them and added them to the CFC Civ2 downloads area so all collectors should grab a copy (click on titles below to go to download pages).

    Alpha Centauri
    I was so happy to see that the scenario I wanted the most was sure enough a total conversion scenario different to other AlphaC ones out there, and is heavily influenced by Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (which means it may be of interest to @Buster's Uncle & @Darsnan ). Which is awesome as scenarios with influenced or ripped graphics from SMAC has totally been what I've been looking for in my super scenario hunt thread! Looks like this is probably the closest we'll get to a Civ2 scenario with totally ripped and converted SMAC graphics as I've always thought that would be cool to do (hell maybe I'll make one myself one day lol).


    Even though I was mainly after the AlphaC scenario I said yes to his other stuff too as I had a feeling there would be some more rare gems and cool scenarios that even if I didn't want then others would definitely want and sure enough I wasn't disappointed. Nearly all of them are total conversion and have cool title pics too (I like it when people put effort into a good title pic). The historical ones (Roman, Viking/Saxon, & Napoleon) will no doubt be of interest to @gapetit and the SL members for possible ToT conversion with @Fairline & other's existing enhanced graphics. He's done a nice job at taking on all areas as we've got scifi, fantasy and historical ones below!

    The Holy Immortals
    A rather impressive fantasy scenario. The strange dark farm/irrigation graphics technique seems to unexpectedly work quite well. I love the look of the cities, they're not Age of Empires so I'm guessing they're possibly from the Caesar and Pharaoh games.


    The Chelonian Conquest
    A space scenario which appears to be influenced by the Master of Orion Jr scenario but with some new graphics and new aliens.


    Heptarchy - The Conquest of the Saxon Kingdoms
    If you're a fan of the TV show Vikings like I am and recently saw it's final season then this one will be of even bigger interest to you as it's set around the end of the Viking age and focuses on Ecgberht of Wessex conquering the Saxon kingdoms and unifying Britain.


    Napoleon - Wars of Conquest
    There's a number of Napoleon scenarios out there but I've not seen John's before until now. Looks like he gave the old CiC Napoleon scenario a fresh coat of paint.


    The Punic Wars
    A nice Roman scenario focused on the Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage. Once again we see those dark farmlands and cool city buildings.


    Axis and Allies
    Not much in the way of custom graphics in this one however what makes it interesting is that John has designed the scenario and map positions along with modifying the rules and settings to best match the Axis and Allies board game by Milton Bradley.


    Well now I'm going to go dip into the last great frontier of scenario hunting which is 'scenarios attached to ancient forum posts' and once that's done I really will have exhausted all possible options, hopefully I can find more of the rare and missing stuff posted previously in this thread or maybe some new stuff! Once the treasure hunt is over I can finally get everything uploaded and finish my Civ2 MGE video, not to mention release all my own scenarios which have been sitting on ice through all this lol, and then move on to ToT & beyond! :)

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    Quoting myself here lol.. as with 24 hours of me posting the above and beginning my big forum history searches I've found this very thing, a total conversion SMAC scenario for Civ2.. Once again it's John Valdez / @CivPartisan that had a similar dream to me.. except sadly he & his modding partner Andrew didn't finish it. Got quite far too! Will try to get their final files and have a think about whether I can quickly do something with it (eg merge it with John Mavin's scenario) in-between everything else I'm doing haha.



    EDIT: I just noticed that Dustin Dunn DID have a @dsquared account here at CFC. Msging him didn't work at Poly but I'll try here too and mention this thread for the hell of it.

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    Thought I'd list a few more I'm having no luck finding so far... due to downloads failing, no backups, authors either long gone or no longer have a copy of their work etc. Once I've finished my forum searches and exhausted all options I'll probably stick all the remaining failures from this thread over in the old official looking for a scenario request thread at the SL as that seems like the more appropriate place. But since this is a work in progress which makes things a bit messy and there's still a chance I can find some of these myself I'll keep going in here for a bit longer. :)

    EDIT: LIST MOVED TO THIS THREAD'S FIRST/TOP POST HERE !

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    There are a lot of scenarios from the Zadanian League site that are probably lost forever. I would love to get my hands on two Braveheart scenarios that were hosted there. As for your list, I was able to track down a few. I mainly collected historical rather than sci fi scenarios, so it's pretty sparse, but here are the ones I found:
    1) Battle of Endor by Markus Schlegel
    2) Star Wars by Ambra
    3) Battle of Hoth (hoth.zip) - may not be what you're looking for, as the author is Brandon Dunaway
    4) Dune (163 kb) - correct file size but no author mentioned
     

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    Oh you absolute friggin LEGEND!!! Thank you so much @minipow01 !!! This is awesome!!!

    Yeah the disappearance of the Zadanian League is a huge loss. It's just crazy how much stuff Dustin had that no one else did. Dunno what else I can do though as I've exhausted every option on it and went full stalker lol. I emailed his old email (which bounced RTS), I PM'd him here and at Poly (neither account accessed since 2000s & notifications are probably hooked into defunct email so no hope), I did google searches for Dustin Dunn (also futile is one of his last Poly posts says he changed his name), I even posted about some of these mods over in the facebook Civ groups and tagged every single person in those groups with the last name Dunn hahaha (it's a common last name so I got all these blokes with the last name Dunn saying nah bro not me lol). Some of these scenarios I did find elsewhere only to find more dead downloads so it's been such a tease. Even more of a tease was last night I was going through some unit files @Metro Polis gave me ages ago to see if they had any Warhammer40k stuff someone was asking for at the SL and I stumbled across the friggin units file for the Final Fantasy 4 modpack by Frank Johnson (who I also tried to find online lol) from Dustin's site that was the main reason I started this thread! This amazing looking elusive Final fantasy scenario that no one has that I've been trying so friggin hard to find and it turns out I had the units file from it the whole time!!! God knows what happened to the rest of it before it made it's way to Metro's collection lol.

    Anyway thanks again man. I'm gonna test these out and then make some download pages! Oh and I'll check for what Braveheart stuff I've got.
     

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    0) SCORE! @minipow01 I've found Mark S. Hibberd's Braveheart bh1.zip that Dustins site linked to in the newer Poly webarchive backups HERE (scroll down to bh1.zip, I've checked & it works). No luck with Mirkos though as the lack of file link gives us no file name sadly. Both CFC and Poly have a braveheart.zip however that is François Baire's Braveheart scenario so you prob already have it, if not let me know.

    1) I've checked out Battle of Endor and yup this is definitely the right one as while I can't see Markus's name anywhere the file size matches and the intro text matches Dustin's description text on his site perfectly, screenshot matches too. Curiously the scenario comes with the readme file from Justin Giles's Tatooine scenario which is a bit misleading. I guess Mark used Justin's graphics and kept the readme as a credit. Missing a title.gif so I added a generic one for fun. Have created a download page for it and can tick this one off as found!


    2) Yup this is definitely Ambra's Star Wars! This is great! His intro text didn't load though so I renamed the files to match. Have created a download page for it and can tick this one off as found!


    3) Yup unfortunately this is a different Battle of Hoth that I already have and forgot to mention (I think it's already on CFC & Poly but I'll double check that) so I've added a 'not Brandon Dunaway's one' to the Hoth entry in my file list above.

    4) I've checked out Dune and nope this is an entirely different one I didn't know about!!! Wowzer!!! I've found author details in the rules file, this was by David Greenfield and he titles it CivDune. There's no intro and the map is completely different to the ones on Dustin's site so yup this is definitely another one. Great news, although that of course means the original 3 are still missing. His custom ocean replacements were incorrectly sized resulting in nasty transparency bleed errors across the whole map so I've fixed it. Missing a title.gif so I added a generic one for fun. Have created a download page for it !


    Thanks again! :)
     
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    Happy to help, Blake00. Thanks for all the effort you've put into cataloguing and digging up these old scenarios!

    Now that I think about it, I downloaded the Dune scenario from a fan forum here. Sure enough, David Greenfield is listed as the author (4th from the top). There's another civ2 modification by Dick Knisely in addition to Emery's well-known scenario.

    Markus Schlegel's name appears in the events file for Endor. That's how I knew he had his hand in it.
     
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    Blake00, thanks for contacting me. I am still alive!

    It's been an awfully long time, but I will look around and see what I still have. I did a bunch of scenarios back in the day:

    Dawn of the Dead, my first and honestly not-that-great scenario
    an Ethiopia scenario about the (failed) attempts to colonize Ethiopia that was well-regarded
    Haitian Revolution, about Toussant L'Ouverture, which won a bunch of prizes
    a total fantasy conversion called Heroes of Beckhorn where you get hero units and fight monsters from a dungeon from your town

    I am getting married in July and I recently found out my fiancee played some of these scenarios back in the day. She was surprised to find out I had written them!

    I'll see if I can locate any of these. I may also have archived versions of other scenarios. I recall I used to play Jesus Balsinde's "Alba de America" scenario a lot, and considered it one of the best of the era. This was a long time ago, though, and I don't know if my old Platehead website files are still on a backup drive somewhere or not. Back in the day, there was no cloud storage and no such thing as an external hard drive, so a lot of things were stored on floppy disks. I have had the same problem with my day job; old data from 2005 is no longer available, and kids these days are mad and/or think it means I did something shady. No! It just is hard to keep stuff forever!
     
  17. Blake00

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    Woah! I didn't think I had a chance in hell of luring the famous Dr @Blackclove who started it all back to the community as it had been decades and I figured the emails attached to your accounts would have changed haha! This is awesome!!!! Thank you so much for your reply!! :)

    Your scenarios:
    Dawn of the Dead scenario is definitely lost, I've tried every remaining Civ site, asked on all remaining Civ forums, checked webarchive backups of all the old Civ sites and it's just gone sadly. So oh man if you still have a copy somewhere I'll make sure it never gets lost again as I'll put it on multiple sites. Well it might be your first work and not perfect, but something I did find in my searches was a lot of old threads here and at Poly where people said it was their favourite scenario! I kid you not, a whole bunch of people saying that so I'm sure it'll be good enough for me and something I'll wanna cover in my video series. :)
    Menelik II of Ethiopia scenario is safe as the original scenario resides on the modern Scenario League site and @gapetit also converted it to ToT with some enhanced graphics and put it in the CFC downloads so you don't have to worry about finding that one. I think it's in the Poly downloads backup too.
    Toussaint L'Ouverture and the Haitian Revolution scenario is also safe as the original scenario resides on the modern Scenario League site and gapetit also converted it to ToT with some enhanced graphics and put it in the CFC downloads so you don't have to worry about finding that one either. I think it's in the Poly downloads backup too.
    Dungeon - Heroes of Beckhorn scenario v3.0 which was obviously your super popular one and is of course very safe too, as the original scenario resides on the modern Scenario League site and I don't know if you've seen this but @Catfish converted it to ToT and gave it a freaky graphics overhaul which you'll wanna check out. He put it in the CFC downloads so you don't have to worry about finding that one too. I think it's in the Poly downloads backup too.


    Other peoples scenarios:
    Oh mate, if you recon you may have some of those other scenarios I've listed above then that would be amazing, not to mention going above and beyond the call as I was just hoping you still had Dawn of the Dead haha! :) And yes as you astutely noticed a number of the above lost scenarios were hosted on Mr Tembas website which sadly is very incomplete on webarchive and most of the downloads were not backed up. A number of the above missing scenarios were also hosted on the 1998-99 first era of the SLeague at Gamestats Apolyton which sadly also suffers from a pretty poor backup on Webarchive. If you do manage to find anything thankfully file hosting is much easier these days and CFC will allow you to attach a number of scenarios to a forum post, and if for whatever reason that doesn't work then I have some cloud storage set to allow public uploading you can drag and drop them into, then I can put them on CFC and other places to preserve them. Oh and don't worry about searching for the Alba de América scenario as that is still safe and sound on the SLeague too. :)

    Congratulations on the marriage, jeez to find a woman that loved Civ2 back in the day is freaky enough but to find one that played your own scenarios is incredible haha, real needle in a haystack stuff, you're a lucky man! :)

    Oh and before I forget I should say that I've just compacted my lost scenarios list post above some more to make it even easier for people to read too.

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  18. techumseh

    techumseh Deity SLeague Staff

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    Greetings Blackclove! I was just starting to follow Civ2 forums near the end of your involvement. Thank you for what you did to get our community started. It's been a grand hobby of mine for over 20 years. My main recollection before you faded away was you getting your PhD. I hope your career has been a success. Cheers!
     
  19. JPetroski

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    It's been a long time since you've been around indeed! Check out the Scenario League forum sometime and see what we've all been up to. Toussant L'Ouverture was one of my favorite scenarios back in the day.

    Also... How the heck did you find a girl who played Civ2, let alone played it intently enough to go scrounge up scenarios on it!? Well done!
     
  20. CurtSibling

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    Good to see one of the CIV2 innovators make an appearance. :)
     

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