Mixed Questions

ml3js

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Did a search looking for answers to some of my questions, but here are some I didn't find. Can anyone help me?

1) What determines if someone will vote for you in the UN election for diplomatic victory? I can't seem to understand the system... I've had someone with +4 vote for me, but someone with +11 abstain... I thought they'd vote for me as soon as they go to "friendly" but that doesn't always work either.

2) Are Forest Preserves any useful? I've never had a game where I used them as by the time I can build them I've usually chopped all forrest to make room for more food.

3) When does the Diplomatic Victory option for the Apo Palace show up? Its not there in the beginning so I guess you'll have to wait or do something else.

4) I usually play with random personalities, but were can you find out which personalities there is in the game to begin with?

And a bit more general:

Anyone got a good suggestion for a good map set-up thats fun to play? I tend to prefer continents/pangeas and dislike archipelago maps. I've only tried the most basic of maps, so if anyone have any experience with the others it would be fun (I have BTS if that makes a difference).
 
1) What determines if someone will vote for you in the UN election for diplomatic victory? I can't seem to understand the system... I've had someone with +4 vote for me, but someone with +11 abstain... I thought they'd vote for me as soon as they go to "friendly" but that doesn't always work either.

I haven't quite figured that one out myself. It's seems pretty arbitrary to me.

2) Are Forest Preserves any useful? I've never had a game where I used them as by the time I can build them I've usually chopped all forrest to make room for more food.

Yes they are useful. Each one you have makes 1 citizen happy and if you have 2 of them that are Forest you'll also get 1 health. And if you build the National Park, you get one free specialist for every Preserve you have in that city. This works very well in your Great Person farm city. I usually try to save 2 Forest tiles in each city if I can, a Grassland Forest for a Preseve and a Plains Forest for a Lumbermill. That gives me 1 happy, 1 health and a bit more production.

3) When does the Diplomatic Victory option for the Apo Palace show up? Its not there in the beginning so I guess you'll have to wait or do something else.

I don't know that either. I personally feel that the AP is kind of broken myself. It's a nice idea but it wasn't implemented very well.

4) I usually play with random personalities, but were can you find out which personalities there is in the game to begin with?

All it's doing is shifting the personalities of all the leaders in the game. So Ghandi could be acting like Montezuma normally does or vice versa.

Anyone got a good suggestion for a good map set-up thats fun to play? I tend to prefer continents/pangeas and dislike archipelago maps. I've only tried the most basic of maps, so if anyone have any experience with the others it would be fun (I have BTS if that makes a difference).

I've come to like Hemispheres. If you set it up with just 2 hemispheres then you basically get the same layout as Continents but the maps are much more interesting and Earth-like. You sometimes get one of the hemispheres splitting into two so you might end up with an Australia type continent, and there's a bunch of smaller islands around the main land masses. You could also try Big & Small. It will quite often have a more Pangea feel to it, with a bunch of smaller land masses around the main one.
 
1) You need to be at +8 or above with the civ (there are additional modifiers you can't see, e.g. Zara has a +2 attitude so will vote at +6), plus, they must like you more than the other guy or they will abstain.

2) I hardly build them I prefer chopping forests or lumbermills.

3) All civs must have 1 or more city with the AP religion and no civ more than 75% of the votes

4) I like fractal maps
 
They must like you more than they like the other guy.

Are you sure the +4 dude wasn't your Vassal ? Because it's really low... Vassal will allways vote for you (unless he's the other guy).
 
I also recommend Fractal Maps.

Welcome to the Forums ml3js. :beer:
 
They must like you more than they like the other guy.

Are you sure the +4 dude wasn't your Vassal ? Because it's really low... Vassal will allways vote for you (unless he's the other guy).

It was one of the Roman ones, can't remember which but he wasn't my vassal. The only thing in this case is that he'd been at war with the other candidate previously so I guess their relation was in the negative.

But I've seen that happen before with others and they abstained in the vote.

Maybe it has something to do with the difference between the two candidates?
 
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