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MNAI 2.62 Bulb path for adepts/preists and generals

Discussion in 'Fall from Heaven Strategy & Tips' started by FlyingSwan, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. FlyingSwan

    FlyingSwan King

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    Just wondered if anyones worked out the bulb paths yet.It seems you can get realy far into the tech tree if you avoid certain techs till youve bulbed a way through,I just havnt been able to work them out yet,although I know a GG bulbs hunting 1st,or BW 1st if you have mining.Played a game using adepts to bulb up to pass through the ether,but because your disciples/acolytes/ritualists can bulb the magic tree too it would be good to compile a list to find the best route.
     
  2. Qgqqqqq

    Qgqqqqq Emperor

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  3. FlyingSwan

    FlyingSwan King

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    Thanks Qqqqqq,but those are the great people tech paths that are in the manuel.This new version of mnai lets adepts and thanes bulb stuff.So for example if you have a thane of kilmorph and you have fishing then he can ten bulb message from the deep,the same turn you can use your OO guy to bulb something else-what he bulbs next im struggling to work out.On one game using thanes I bulbed my way to drama on the same turn,I cant remember how I did it though now.

    Great generals seem to bulb there way up to rage,and adepts bulb through the magic stuff.

    What I have worked out is that if your in a religion,runes of kilmorph for example,the bulb priority for your thane changes to arete.
     
  4. Qgqqqqq

    Qgqqqqq Emperor

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    I recommend you ask in the MNAI subforum. When you ask in the main mods subforum, I presume you're talking about the main mod.
     
  5. Qgqqqqq

    Qgqqqqq Emperor

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    (Oh, and it'll be stored in the xml somewhere, if you want to go digging. I'd just search a tech name that you know is bulbed and look at the files that come up.)
     
  6. akatosh

    akatosh Prince

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    Wow you can use adepts and thanes to bulb techs? How many beakers do you get per bulb?
     
  7. Terkhen

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    The research paths are either the same ones used by great people or a mixture of them. You get a random amount of beakers between 1 and 2147483648 (up to a maximum of the tech cost). Most dragons and other units such as wood golems can also light bulb. This is not a feature, but a bug. Check this thread for details: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=549962
     

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