Modern Northeast Asia (ROK, DPRK, USA, Taiwan and PRC) playtest ready!

I had Japan and if you look at the above thread, you will see that Japan didn't do anything in the scenario. I agree that they would be important in a real life war, but they just didn't come in to play in the scenario, they were ballast. As far as Russia or Mongolia, the map didn't really have the space for them to be strongly involved. I think by having the Russian trade tech that would really be the way they would be in the war anyway. I don't see them rushing to nK's aid. Finally I wanted to make this game MP capable (I play this with my wife) and also wanted to make it so it didn't lag like crazy. There are enough games out there that try to include every single single detail and end up sacrificing gameplay. So there's my reasoning and I'm sticking by it.

I would say keep them in anyway. If anything they are an option for the player. I as I said, I am very opposed to factoring countries out in a Civ scenario. Leaving out a key player makes a scenario SUCK in my opinion. No offense to anyone personally, thats just how I feel . The way you screwed a scenario with great potential up makes it suck. Again I am not trying to offend you personally, I just think your scenario needs improvement. You COULD merge Mongolia with Russia. That would be a great way to factor in both nations. Japan needs to be put back in. They are too much of a major player to be left out. I don't care if they did nothing when controlled by the AI. So yeah, until some changes like this are made, I am NOT going to play this scenario. I would rather play something that does not have the realism screwed up. Maybe make two versions of the scenario or something.

On a good note, I was able to get the version of it with Japan in it to play. It has potential and I noticed the turn times are fine. I might modify it some.

Well I tried to and I got the pedia Icons error again for the Raptor and the PLA Solider.
 
Well, it's a free country, you don't have to play it. My scenario apparently doesn't suck too much since I've had good reviews and lots of downloads. Your voice, though quite loud I will say, is a lonely one.
 
I would say keep them in anyway. If anything they are an option for the player. I as I said, I am very opposed to factoring countries out in a Civ scenario. Leaving out a key player makes a scenario SUCK in my opinion. No offense to anyone personally, thats just how I feel . The way you screwed a scenario with great potential up makes it suck. Again I am not trying to offend you personally, I just think your scenario needs improvement. You COULD merge Mongolia with Russia. That would be a great way to factor in both nations. Japan needs to be put back in. They are too much of a major player to be left out. I don't care if they did nothing when controlled by the AI. So yeah, until some changes like this are made, I am NOT going to play this scenario. I would rather play something that does not have the realism screwed up. Maybe make two versions of the scenario or something.

On a good note, I was able to get the version of it with Japan in it to play. It has potential and I noticed the turn times are fine. I might modify it some.

Well I tried to and I got the pedia Icons error again for the Raptor and the PLA Solider.


Well Tommy Vercetti DOES make a good point, Japan should be in the scenario. With out them it looks kind of stupid.
 
If you'll read the rest of the thread, I announced that they wouldn't be involved, this was a hard decision reached with a great deal of playtesting. I realize Japan would have some involvement in this scenario, but the way the game plays doesn't really do it justice. To let you know how hard of a decision it was, I created Japanese troops, a tech tree and specific wonders for them, so it wasn't on account of laziness. So I made that choice. I created this scenario I may add and put a lot of time and work into it. I don't appreciate someone with 3 posts, or anybody really, saying my creation looks "stupid". I'm always open to feedback and will work with any bugs in the game or possible modification to the tech tree, ect. to improve gameplay. But, I will not add Japan or a Russia/Mongolia civ in because it doesn't bring anything to the gameplay. If you want to try and mod the game, go ahead, if you don't know how, I really think it's rather poor form to be saying all these NON-CONSTRUCTIVE negative things about a scenario that you wouldn't even know how to make.
 
I would say keep them in anyway. If anything they are an option for the player. I as I said, I am very opposed to factoring countries out in a Civ scenario. Leaving out a key player makes a scenario SUCK in my opinion. No offense to anyone personally, thats just how I feel . The way you screwed a scenario with great potential up makes it suck. Again I am not trying to offend you personally, I just think your scenario needs improvement. You COULD merge Mongolia with Russia. That would be a great way to factor in both nations. Japan needs to be put back in. They are too much of a major player to be left out. I don't care if they did nothing when controlled by the AI. So yeah, until some changes like this are made, I am NOT going to play this scenario. I would rather play something that does not have the realism screwed up. Maybe make two versions of the scenario or something.

On a good note, I was able to get the version of it with Japan in it to play. It has potential and I noticed the turn times are fine. I might modify it some.

Well I tried to and I got the pedia Icons error again for the Raptor and the PLA Solider.

I would ahve to agree with Tommy on that. It would actually seem more, beneficial, if you will, to keep Japan in. Seems like a bad idea to take it out. It would give more of a complexity to have japan in as well if u think about it.
 
Ok, I'm tired of it. If you read above I DID have Japan in there. It did NOT add complexity, I've THOUGHT about it. Have you even played the scenario? Do you know what it plays like with Japan? This board is for feedback on the scenario, bugs, glitches, possible additional units, things of the like. I am not considering adding Japan. You really ought to read what it says above. I believe those are good reasons.
 
I played the version with Japan in it and it rocked. Thats the good version the other one is the crappy version. Honestly, who cares about MP? I sure don't.
 
I'll also have to aggree with Tommy.... It is kind of pointless to have a scenario involving modern NE Asia and NOT have Japan.... Mongolia/Russia as one nation would also make sense, due to the fact that Mongolia was under heavy Russian influence, at least during the Cold War era.

Also, Japan, as a builder, makes more sense anyways, based on post WWII history... Perhaps they could have a space-race type victory based on economic control.
 
Sorry, read above, that's my response. Pointless, well maybe you should tell the people who played it that it was pointless. I'll call you out for this: Russia/Mongolia during the Cold War, eh? Do you even know when this scenario takes place? Have you played it?
 
You know, you may want to use a nicer tone of voice, especially to someone who has over 30 times as many posts as you do, and who has also been modding the game for at least 3 years longer as well.

No, I haven't played it, yet, but that's because I'm working on a little thing knows as the "Final Fantasy Mod" right now, and don't have much time for anything else... Also, you can't seem to be bothered to post a working screen shot or an in-depth description, either.

Also, keep in mind that the AI (or as I like to call it, the Artificial Stupidity) is NOT, I repeat, NOT the best way to guage how any civ is goint to play in a mod.... The only way to do that is to play all the civs yourself, or can't you be bothered to properly playtest your own scenario as well?

I was offering some constructive criticism, and if you're just going to insult me and act like a jerk, I'll just report you for trolling.
 
Hi, i have just downloaded your scenario and I will try. I am a South Korean who lives in china so I will be very attentive to the details.:king:
 
Hey cool, let me know if you find something that is inaccurate or needs to be changed. I'll warn you though, I know alot about this theatre, spent three years in South Korea and believe me, we were looking north.
 
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