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[modmod] RFC North America - development only

Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall Modmods' started by AtlantaMarty, Jun 19, 2016.

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What size should RFC: North America's map be?

  1. 1: 204x120 (24,480 tiles)

    57.1%
  2. 2: 250x147 (36,750 tiles)

    28.6%
  3. 3: 315*185 (58,275 tiles)

    14.3%
  1. AtlantaMarty

    AtlantaMarty Democracy Manifest: CivFanatics 1984

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    I would like to make this modmod after I finish up SoI: Expanded, which at the rate I'm working, could be 2020 :).

    Nevertheless, I still think it would be helpful to start the planning phase now.

    I think the timeline should be 1492-2000, with 1 turn per year until 1808, and 2 turns per year after that for a total of 700 turns.

    I will make a map from scratch, although help would be welcome.
    I am still trying to decide between 3 map sizes:
    1: 204x120 (24,480 tiles)

    2: 250x147 (36,750 tiles)

    3: 315*185 (58,275 tiles)


    3 is my favorite out of those, in fact, I wish it could be bigger, but apparently there is a hardcoded limit at 65,535 :mad:
     

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  2. merijn_v1

    merijn_v1 Black Belt

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    I recommend cutting of the edges of the map, no matter which size you are going to use. These tiles are redundant. No civ will ever settle there. No unit fighting will ever happen there. NOTHING will ever happen there. It will only make the map bigger for no reason. (Just look at the amount of water tiles it adds) As computing times increase exponentially with the tiles, it will save a huge amount of computing time.

    I think you should definitely get rid of the red parts. The green part is optionally. If you don't plan to add some civ in there other than Spanish colonization I recommend getting rid of that as well.

    Spoiler :


    BTW, I think even the smallest size (even with my cuts) is accurate enough.
     

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  3. DC123456789

    DC123456789 Chieftain

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    What exactly are you planning to do for this? (i.e. civs)
     
  4. AtlantaMarty

    AtlantaMarty Democracy Manifest: CivFanatics 1984

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    I do think I want to cut off some of the edges, though not quite as much as you proposed. I'll probably cut about half as much as that in the west (I want to keep all of Alaska) and all of the east (No real need for Greenland). I might cut a few tiles in the North but I want to keep all though Islands.
    As for the south, I want the Panama canal zone to stay on the map.

    As far as size/scale is concerned, I like #3 because it allows most of the major American cities to be on the map without much overlap. I have just started work on map showing the BFCs of the major American cities.
    So far I have:
    Green=Boston
    Red=New York
    Yellow=Philadelphia
    Blue=Washington DC
    White=Raleigh
    Pink=Charleston
    Orange=Atlanta

    I haven't officially started planning this, but just off the top of my head:
    European:
    Britain
    Netherlands
    France
    Spain
    Russia

    Colonial:
    America
    Canada
    Mexico
    Confederacy
    Republic of Texas
    Central America

    Amerindian: (still uncertain about all of these - please make suggestions)
    Sioux
    Comanche
    Shoshone
    Cherokee
    Eskimo
    Aztec
    Carib
     

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  5. Yoda Power

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    You shouldn't use a Mercator projection base for a map that goes so far north. It gives size bias to all the wrong areas.
     
  6. DC123456789

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    Yeah, an orthographic projection would let you cut off a lot of unnecessary ocean, in addition to being the projection that's normally used for North America anyway.
     
  7. Ballazic

    Ballazic Chieftain

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    Civil war Civil war. Also Quebec Seperatist civilization.

    I think the problem with this Mod is that it will get really boring by the 20th century.
     
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  9. AtlantaMarty

    AtlantaMarty Democracy Manifest: CivFanatics 1984

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    If I ever get around to this, I'll use a slightly more cropped map with a resolution of 215x125. (26,875 tiles) sa96cb219824dfi001f0000014a7020.png
     
  10. AbsintheRed

    AbsintheRed Chieftain

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    I would definitely use a different map projection though.

    EDIT: I see this already came up
    Anyway, I absolutely agree with the others before me.
    Both the shape and the size of the norhern areas are way too inaccurate.
    You should probably search for maps concentrating on NAmerica only.

    EDIT2: perhaps something like this?
    Spoiler :
     
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  11. AtlantaMarty

    AtlantaMarty Democracy Manifest: CivFanatics 1984

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    I don't like the way that projection distorts and curves the West Coast and Alaska
     
  12. DC123456789

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    Really? AbsintheRed's projection looks much more correct to me - it's your equirectangular(?) that looks like it has a heavily distorted Alaska and West Coast.
     
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  13. AtlantaMarty

    AtlantaMarty Democracy Manifest: CivFanatics 1984

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    Alaska pointing diagonally up instead of straight to the left looks strange to me.
     

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