Mods to make this game stop sucking

Derpy Hooves

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After having installed and deinstalled this game 3 times since it was released I'm giving it a last shot, after having tried one or two mods downloaded directly from Firaxis (laggy) download service, but after finding out about their tendency to crash every 10 minutes I gave up (I do actually have a good computer, 10ghz core, 2 month old videocard and more then enough RAM).

Due to the combat system and its tactical posibilities I really want to make this game work, but until now at every turn the AI makes me just want to quit.

Whether it's them ignoring every other AI's warmongering, 5 people declaring war on you at the same time for not having a high enough 'army value' (despite it practically always being enough to hold them all off without loss of a city or unit), getting diplo hits because they covet your lands from their continent on the other side of the map or are vaguely going for the same winning objective (often times I'm not even sure myself till later in the game, where it generally becomes domination because the entire world acts like a bunch of a'holes).

Then there's the constant denouncements, the pointlessness of DoF's, the fact that the AI still thinks this is CIV as far as unit tactics go, and the absurd spamming of said units.
It just makes me feel like I'm playing against computers programmed to hate me and single me out instead of other vicious leaders like in the previous incarnation.
I thought progressing from Prince to King would solve some of these problems, at least make things a bit more realistic and make the AI look less like a toddler with a gun.

Ofcourse all it did was making the game more like playing against cheating toddlers with more guns.
I've never even finished a Culture or Science victory properly, inbetween the DoW's flying around, the need for a standing army to defend that can easily be turned into a attacking force with the addition of 1 or 2 extra units and an AI that does'nt care about it's own survival, just your demise, every non Domination victory (barring Diplomacy because it's a joke and I turn it off, along with half the 'recommended' city states) for me has turned into one simply because it was more practical and faster.

I'm not too familiar with the Civ series, CIV being the only other one I've played but there I felt like I was making a nation, engaging in Diplomacy to keep my allies happy and that the game was just fine with any victory condition I felt like going for.

Yet here I feel like war is the only option I got unless I want to stretch out time and go for another victory condition while I already control so much of the map I've already won.


To get to some semblance of a point that is not me just venting:
Are there any mods that make the AI less psychotic and bent on my destruction?
And what mods do you use that truly enrich the gameplay, as I've concluded that the way it is for me now (latest patches, all DLC's 'cept for Korea and the Wonders) gives me far more frustration then fun.

So, will mods make my day or will I have to wait until they (if ever) release an expansion to make this into a Civ game instead of Sid Meier's Warring for retards.

Edit: Cat stood on the enter button, more text incomming.
Edit2: Indeed.
 
VEM and NiGHTS are the two biggets kids on the block. VEM builds upon the core game while NiGHTS makes it more like Civ IV. Other nice mods that I know of include Cyrinno's Echo of Ages, Info Addict and City State Diplomacy. Note that most of these mods aren't compatible with each other.

Other sweet stuff that makes Civ 5 better are map scripts like Perfect World 3 and Tectonics, new Civs like that giant pack of ancient civilizations which name eludes me right now, Pouakai (I think that's how it's spelled) and another guy's one million extra wonders and Yet Another Earth Map Pack, which lets you play on pretty accurate versions of Earth.
 
I knew there was something that kept the die-hards playing, thanks, looks very promising.
 
I knew there was something that kept the die-hards playing, thanks, looks very promising.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of die-hards playing without mods, nor will play with any mods. You're just not seeing that, hence your silly comment about "ten of thousands of posts" in Strategy and Tips saying the game sucks.
 
Believe it or not, there are a lot of die-hards playing without mods, nor will play with any mods. You're just not seeing that, hence your silly comment about "ten of thousands of posts" in Strategy and Tips saying the game sucks.

Well, if you wanna drag discussions across threads, fine.

You where just quoting random numbers, I figured one-upping you would show the stupidity of initially using those empty figures.

And before my grand entrance into this forum I have lurked for quite a while, I've seen more 'I hate this game' threads then it's counterpart.
And most people that make threads like that don't stay here for long due to them 'Hating the game'.
Hopefully I will be different due to wonderful people like Catastrophe possibly increasing this games playability for me.

Your assumption of more people liking then hating this game is just as empty and subjectively based as it's opposite would be.

"There are more negative then positive threads."
"But a poll said more people like then hate this game."
"But the people that hate this game don't stay here long enough to vote on such a poll."
"But alot of people are still playing it."
"But they could've fixed the game by modding."
Et-<snip>-cetera.

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And before my grand entrance into this forum I have lurked for quite a while, I've seen more 'I hate this game' threads then it's counterpart.
And most people that make threads like that don't stay here for long due to them 'Hating the game'.

Actually, I think that is mostly because people who do enjoy the game do not spend their time on the internet saying "We love the game". They're playing Civ V instead. Disappointed people tend to be much more vocal then content people in my experience, and thus tend to make more noise. I guess that's just human nature. I don't know how the actual love-hate numbers rack up, but, to be really honest, I don't really care.
 
Your assumption of more people liking then hating this game is just as empty and subjectively based as it's opposite would be.

Perhaps it's my wording or my posts rather high 'tl;dr' factor but I was aware you can't make either statements without knowing your sources are your own handful of experiences.
 
Derpy, the best mod you can use to make this game better is Beyond the Sword... wait...

Seriously, you have to try Thalassicus mod, VEM, to have a nicer experience... also, in terms of UI, you need InfoAddict and CivWillard. Finally, some of us are trying small modifications that could have a big impact in combat, like doubling hitpoints for units and cities (more survivability) and increasing inter-cities space to 4-5 tiles minimum (more maneuverability). Expect some reports about that in the next few days (weeks?).
 
I arbitrarily chose Nights as the first to test but I'll prolly go for VEM now.

And I've read about the tests with the extra hitpoints while lurking, sounds very promising, I take it that was you? Kinda hard to pay too much attention to usernames when your browsing from a budget smartphone.
 
Moderator Action: Everybody: discuss each other's posts without resorting to attacking each other, be it directly or through snide remarks

Sometimes I feel like a civ v worker, being herded around, told what I can and can not build.
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Derpy: I know the best mod. It is called "uninstall it and play something else". If you hate that game so much, then why bother?

Also, the discussion about more people hate or love it is moot. I am playing a game based on my liking, not if more people like it than hate it.

I guess it is your wording. If you start a post with "this game sucks", you are going to provoke reactions. I assume you knew this. Maybe something along the lines of "what gameplay mods can you people suggest and why" would have kept the tone down.

Just saying.
 
VEM and NiGHTS are the two biggets kids on the block. VEM builds upon the core game while NiGHTS makes it more like Civ IV. Other nice mods that I know of include Cyrinno's Echo of Ages, Info Addict and City State Diplomacy. Note that most of these mods aren't compatible with each other. ... Other sweet stuff that makes Civ 5 better are map scripts like Perfect World 3 and Tectonics, new Civs like that giant pack of ancient civilizations which name eludes me right now, Pouakai (I think that's how it's spelled) and another guy's one million extra wonders and Yet Another Earth Map Pack, which lets you play on pretty accurate versions of Earth.
I pretty much play mods exclusively -- my two favorites are "Civilization Nights" and "Echoes of Ages." I have played the "Vanilla Enhanced Mod" (VEM) a few times, but don't really like it as much as the other two I named. I do like the way that VEM has nerfed the "final bulb party" exploit that lets you get a science win by turn 275 in the vanilla game, and I also like the way that VEM has changed RAs for the better; but I don't like that my cannon & artillery in VEM have a 50% penalty against land units (which makes them pretty useless as defensive weapons).

Anyway, I always play the mods with Info Addict on, plus maybe one or two other small mods. I do like the PerfectWorld map mod, and use it quite a bit. Contrary to your post, I haven't found any of these mods to be incompatable with each other (i.e., you play one main "total change" mod such as VEM or Nights, and tack on a couple of small map mods + Info Addict, etc. I've even used a neat mod called "Government Buildings" a few times, and another neat mod called "In Game Editor" a couple of times.
 
Wannabe: Not sure if you read the OP but I clearly stated in the second paragraph:
Due to the combat system and its tactical posibilities I really want to make this game work,

Yes, the discussion as to whether or not more people like it or hate it is pointless, like has been stated 3 times before you, including the damn OP.

And the fact that I was looking for a discussion is probably fairly obvious because 99% of the OP is basicly a rant on the AI.

And WCBarney, very nice to know I can combine these mods, from what I gather VEM and NIGHTS are too game changing to be combined, correct?
 
I play VEM. Vanguard units, better DoF and open border system, better Great People, better policy choices, better Elizabeth and Suleiman. Better.
 
I'm a fan of vanilla Civ 5, never felt the need to try any mod - but the VEM changelist sounds very interesting. It's pretty much the mod I'd try, if I wanted one.
So it's the one I recommend.
 
... And WCBarney, very nice to know I can combine these mods, from what I gather VEM and NIGHTS are too game changing to be combined, correct?
Well, yeah. Both VEM and Nights are total Civ V revisions -- different tech trees, policies, units, buildings, wonders ..... So, no, these would be totally incompatable. But either can be played with, say, PerfectWorld 3, or Info Addict, or the little one whose name I forget that takes out the stupid "crudely hand-drawn maps" and "evidence of barbarian activity" from goody hut results.
 
Well, if you wanna drag discussions across threads, fine.

You where just quoting random numbers, I figured one-upping you would show the stupidity of initially using those empty figures.

And before my grand entrance into this forum I have lurked for quite a while, I've seen more 'I hate this game' threads then it's counterpart.
And most people that make threads like that don't stay here for long due to them 'Hating the game'.
Hopefully I will be different due to wonderful people like Catastrophe possibly increasing this games playability for me.

Your assumption of more people liking then hating this game is just as empty and subjectively based as it's opposite would be.

"There are more negative then positive threads."
"But a poll said more people like then hate this game."
"But the people that hate this game don't stay here long enough to vote on such a poll."
"But alot of people are still playing it."
"But they could've fixed the game by modding."
Et-<snip>-cetera.

When they fix the game there will be many more postive ones. The men are all living for that day! So am I man! :lol: At least I play the god damn game! :lol: But not like all the time dudeman!!! :lol::lol::lol: Sorry was having a bit of fun yesterday.
 
Try multiplayer. You will not always face stupid AI civs. Only some stupid humans sometimes.

I'm a big fan of mp but since 2-3 weeks i find myself getting a lot of fun in sp mode.(Am i sick? Maybe).
 
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