1. We have added a Gift Upgrades feature that allows you to gift an account upgrade to another member, just in time for the holiday season. You can see the gift option when going to the Account Upgrades screen, or on any user profile screen.
    Dismiss Notice

Most underrated civ

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Strategy & Tips' started by Doctor Doom, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. Cromagnus

    Cromagnus Deity

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2012
    Messages:
    2,272
    Are they really underrated though? I've never heard anyone say, "Man, Assyria sucks". :p

    Admittedly, Assyria is nerfed on Deity because early city capture is so inadvisable. You're much better off XPing your CBs until t90. Siege Towers are actually detrimental. If you use them to capture the city quickly, no one gets XP. Even if you just use them as a meatshield, the +50% damage means less XP for your archers. The city is at zero health 50% faster, so 50% less XP... But, underrated? Getting a free tech from capture is obviously helpful when you do finally capture. Who disagrees?
     
  2. Lord Alexander

    Lord Alexander Warlord

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2013
    Messages:
    118
    Hmm not sure I think Assyria could be up there but I think the Ottomans are more under rated.
     
  3. sendos

    sendos Immortal

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,134
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Venice at 40th spot? Now there's an underrated civ. You produce so much gold that you can rush purchase tons of landsknects to save you from certain doom. Egypt is also a bit underrated given that it is the perfect wonder spamming civ. Byzantium was voted down early because you have to aim for religion in order to get the most out of them.
     
  4. KmDubya

    KmDubya King

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2008
    Messages:
    632
    Location:
    Nong Bua Lam Pha, Thailand
    Civs on the list above that have not been mentioned yet that I feel are under rated are:

    Russia - The early production boost is very nice. The extra hammers on horses and iron help produce more when it matters the most. Getting double quantity is also very helpful, you can trade some or you can make more than the others. Double nukes? Yes please.

    I get a lot of plains and river starts with them which helps production. The Cossack is better than normal cavalry with the bonus versus wounded units both stacking with the charge promotion and sticks with you when you upgrade to tanks. The Krepost helps expand your borders faster saving you money especially if you do not take tradition and its super expansion.

    America - A river start bias helps with early growth when it matters the most. The extra sight helps scouting and warfare. The cheaper border expansions are very helpful in a non tradition game. The minutemen get a free promotion, no terrain cost movement, faster golden ages and everything sticks when promoted? Sounds pretty great to me. Does anyone know if it double stacks with Alhambro for two free rough terrain promos? The B-17 with the extra promos can start with air repair without needing Autocracy or Brandenberg. It might be late but it rocks. it also sticks when it upgrades.

    Morocco - Desert starts can be godly with enough river flood plains and hills. If you can get Desert Faith or Petra you can really dominate. The Kasbah makes every desert better, with Petra it makes it almost unfair. The trade bonus can be great with the extra science from being behind in tech on higher levels. The Berber Cav is cav that has a big bonus in home territory and a huge bonus in desert, both of which stick when upgraded. See what Berber promoted into tanks can do. Morocco without desert is pretty useless.
     
  5. Buccaneer

    Buccaneer Deity

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2001
    Messages:
    3,562
    It sounds like for civs to be underrated, you have to roll or play on a certain kind of map. Are we narrowing the criteria so said civs meet a specific condition for them to excel?
     
  6. Resipsa

    Resipsa King

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2012
    Messages:
    998

    I'm simply going by the deity tier list which has asterisks* and carets^ to denote high tiered on Pangaea maps and Islands/Small Continents/Archipelago maps.
     
  7. CHEESE!

    CHEESE! On a long nostalgia trip

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2007
    Messages:
    2,219
    Gender:
    Male
    No longer, more's the pity.
     
  8. Arachnofiend

    Arachnofiend Perturbed Pugilist

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2012
    Messages:
    1,950
    I really have to wonder what they were doing with the start biases in Brave New World. Sweden has no business being crippled by tundra.
     
  9. Memoryjar

    Memoryjar Emperor

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2013
    Messages:
    1,244
    Location:
    Lille, France
    Since two weeks, a lot of my random maps start with a tundra start. I don't know why (Immortal difficulty ?).
    So Sweden is not different than another civ for me.
     
  10. LordDarkanine

    LordDarkanine Chieftain

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2014
    Messages:
    6
    Location:
    North Carolina
    I always liked the idea of Sweden. There ability pretty nice for cultural and diplomatic games and the carolean is pretty cool.
     
  11. joncnunn

    joncnunn Senior Java Wizard Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2008
    Messages:
    8,621
    Location:
    Missouri
    Moderator Action: Four posts about a civilization in real life deleted. If you wish to discus them in real life, please take it to the off topic forums.
     

Share This Page