Murphy's Law

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by OKScientist, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. OKScientist

    OKScientist Chieftain

    Jun 21, 2007
    "The probability of founding Confucianism in a city is proportional to how badly you wanted that city to be your HE city." :mad:

    Seriously, I keep getting my "military city" founding Confucianism. This is especially terrible since Confucianism is usually the one religion I invest in to make some money from (I usually found it through the Oracle). I want to be building marketplaces, banks, wall street etc in the shrine city, but I can't afford the hammers if that's my HE city too.

    My military city is usually my 2nd city, and in my latest games I always founded Confu in it. So I thought maybe I should plan right from the start for my 2nd city to be an economy city and my 3rd city to be the military one (assuming that Confu will be founded in my 2nd city, as usual). I tried that and what happened? Confu was founded in my military city again!:cry:

    Anyway, probably a run of bad luck. I still build my HE in my holy city when this happens, because I have found that otherwise my warring efforts are doomed.

    So what do you do when this happens to you? Do you still build HE where you originally planned, when that city happens to found your main religion? Or do you change plans and build HE somewhere else?
  2. BigTime

    BigTime Prince

    Jun 18, 2009
    Chapel Hill, NC
    Ummm..... Build HE and Wall Street? Your HE city doesn't always have to be spamming units...
  3. huerfanista

    huerfanista Emperor

    Dec 25, 2006
    Funny, I did just that in NC68. Worked out quite well. The difference was that it was in my capital, due to founding (unintentionally, I swear :lol: ) hinduism.
  4. Sian

    Sian Emperor

    Jan 21, 2008
    i suggest reading up on the rules for where a religion is founded

    1. It'll be in the city with least religions
    2. It'll be in your largest city
    3. It won't be in your capital unless thats your only city

    Theres some math on it and a RNG roll, but with those three 'rules' will give you a fairly educated guess as of where your religion will spawn.
  5. Riflin'Joe

    Riflin'Joe Prince

    Feb 4, 2011
    New Zealand
    When I build Wall St. in a holy city its almost always a captured capital.
  6. QuixotesGhost

    QuixotesGhost Warlord

    Aug 9, 2005
    Focus your Great Person production towards Great Prophets, and settle them into the city (after building a shrine, of course). Ankor Wat becomes an attractive wonder in this situation.

    You can either then still build the HE in that city, or build the Iron works when it comes online. Wall Street is expensive in terms of hammers and doesn't need commerce if you can run your slider high (which a shrine + settled prophets will allow you to do), so I find it better to build it at a production city if I have a reason to (like it being the Confu Holy City).

    For Wall Street, my choice of placing it is:

    1. Do I have a well spread shrine?
    If not:
    2. Do I have a good National Park site to run Merchant Specialists?
    If not:
    3. Somewhere else I can run merchant specialists?
    If not:
    4. Just throw it somewhere random so at least I have a place to base corporations.

    If you're running your slider at 70% or higher then the ability of the Wall Street city to generate commerce doesn't matter too much.
  7. Negator_UK

    Negator_UK King

    Nov 14, 2007
    Yes it does :D - but you don't need a religious city at all. So just plonk HE where you were going to put it, spam units and whack AI's.

    You shouldn't be running your own religion as state religion anyway, you should be picking that of an AI you want to befriend.

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