Music downloaders face increased penalties

[Grisu]

But seriously, I don't understand how they can "track" you, or find out you've been even attempting to illegally download music. Can't people just use proxy servers to block their IP adresses? Correct me if Im wrong though cause Im not exactly good when it comes to knowing stuff about computers.

it's still possible to track you, since they can get to the proxy, and through it the can find out your real IP. Proxies don't block your ip adress, they just act as an intermediary between you and the other party.
Furthermore most (if not all) p2p-software don't use proxies. It would be extremely impractical since all traffic would have to go through the proxy, which would mean huge loads....

 

[Erik Mesoy]

While we're at it:

All they have to do is include a program that can hide as an mp3 file or mpeg file.

Would you also support the FBI running child pornography sites in order to catch child molestors?

 

[Grisu]

This is not wiretapping. Nobody's going to listen to your phone conversations about what you've downloaded. All they have to do is include a program that can hide as an mp3 file or mpeg file. If you don't download it, you're fine. If you do, boom, you go to jail. Problem solved.

yeah right, so downloading a file that's called thenanasong.mp3 but contains no song data is a crime?

oh, and if it is a crime, isn't allowing people to download it even the bigger crime? (after all people who seed are usually punished harsher than those who leech....)

 

[Red Stranger]

When police set up trapped cars for theives. The theives are punished even though they didn't really "steal a car." Same with the downloaders.

 

[kingjoshi]

When police set up trapped cars for theives. The theives are punished even though they didn't really "steal a car." Same with the downloaders.

That's entrapment by the police. The perpetrator is not criminally liable.

 

[Red Stranger]

The program would be disguised as an illegal song. So if someone download it, it's reasonable to believe that the are trying to download the song not the program.

It would be entrapment if the police disguised the program in a file that says "Red Stranger riding his bike," because that is a legally downloadable file.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

How about if they disguise a text file that reads "Red Stranger riding his bike" as an mp3 file?
Edit: Here it is!


Useful link: http://www.eff.org/share/

 

[superisis]

When police set up trapped cars for theives. The theives are punished even though they didn't really "steal a car." Same with the downloaders.

I have no worries then, since this is definitly illegal in sweden (since it encourages crime). Dl on!

 

[Grisu]

The program would be disguised as an illegal song. So if someone download it, it's reasonable to believe that the are trying to download the song not the program.

you cannot punish somebody for something he hasn't done. If somebody downloads a picture called "my8yodaughternude.jpg" that shows red stranger riding his bike, he wouldn't be guilty of consuming child porn, would he?

the filename says exactly nothing about the contents of the file. likewise would it be allowed to download a song called "KaeptnOviscopyrightfreesong.mp3" that really contains "under jolly roger" by Running Wild? I think not....

and even if that action by the police was legal, it wouldn't really be a problem. just some change the filenames and tehy wouldn't be able to get you, after all i just downloaded suse10.iso not some musicalbum :mischief

 

[Erik Mesoy]

And what if the files are encrypted? What constitutes "music"?

This is an mp3 file.

This is the mp3 file as viewed by the Text Editor program:
Red Stranger riding his bike.

This is the mp3 file as viewed by the KHexedit program:
52 65 64 20 53 74 72 61 6e 67 65 72 20 72 69 64 69 6e 67 20 68 73 20 62 69 6b 65 0a