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My experience with game

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Terxpahseyton, Jan 30, 2019.

  1. Terxpahseyton

    Terxpahseyton How much Parmesan to put on your umbrella?

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    So in the first third of the last year I fell truly madly in love and in the end, she, a work colleague, dumped me for a another 20year old and smoking hot girl (bisexual, also a work colleague - yay me!), aaand it devastated me.
    And then I stumbled upon a youtube video. A pick-up seminar video, as I later found out, but it was about general romance and love stuff, not pick-up as such. And this general stuff really clicked with something in me. I felt like I finally could connect some dots. And that got me hooked. But I did not go into this Pick-Up-Stuff. What I did do is stumble upon a book about the sociological, psychological, cultural and biological sexual relations of modern human beings. Basically the philosophy which underpins a lot of the game- and pick-up culture.
    And that really freaking clicked with me. Suddenly everything seemed to make sense. And only weaponized with that philosophy - no actual pick-up whatsoever, just a way of understanding women and their sexual nature - I went out there and started to approach women in a to me completely new way from day 1. That was in August last year. I love this book and my son will read it when in puberty. Because I so wish I had.

    Today, I still haven't learned any actual Pick-Up. I did pick up (hehe) a book, a good one I would say. But haven't finished it yet and I don't plan to study any of the routines because I don't see really the necessity or the point so far. That is a bit much perfectionism for my taste in that particular area. And I certainly don't need to hit three clubs a week to get weekly fresh supply. Maybe for that you need those routines.
    But I have tried and tried and tried to apply the philosophy - and also to actually understand it. Because only experience will enable you to really contextualize things - and also to take some aspects not that serious or true as such. And it was a rocky road, a rocky transformation. I did creep out a girl or two, on the way.
    But I learned. And got better and better. And I saw the evidence for my new understanding freaking everywhere. And found success. And I also learned to be responsible. Nasty thing to accidentally make a girl fall in love with you whom you are not even sexually interested in.

    And today, since of recently, I am having an affair with the aforementioned now 21 year-old smoking hot girl and my great former love is more and more realizing that she ****ed up when she dumped me. And I don't even care as much about that anymore. Because by mastering it I have also out-grown it.

    So in conclusion: I have to say, if you ignore all the idiots out there on youtube or elsewhere, if you dig deep and actually get the underlying philosophy in all its nuance - because there is a lot of nuance if you actually want to get it and a lot of ways to not get it -, the pick-up-community got a lot of truth to say about women. That today is as evident to me as the color of the sky. And evidence beats ideology. Every time.
    And funny thing is - talk to natural players. People who naturally came to be very very good with women. They will share many similar views. Because they too learned them by doing, by experience, by evidence.

    I am not a player. But I understand women well, in some ways. They are no enigma by any means. And in comparison to what I was before, I sometimes feel a bit like a player, I have to admit :D
     
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  2. aimeeandbeatles

    aimeeandbeatles watermelon

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    The thread title made me think you were talking about video games and I was terribly confused for a few minutes.
     
  3. Terxpahseyton

    Terxpahseyton How much Parmesan to put on your umbrella?

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    xD That... is a good point. But I couldn't say pick-up because I have no real experience with that. It is really just attitude and flow that interests me.
     
  4. Synsensa

    Synsensa Warlord Retired Moderator

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    Why did you pick this route instead of simply treating women like people?
     
  5. Terxpahseyton

    Terxpahseyton How much Parmesan to put on your umbrella?

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    Because it doesn't work very well. For both parties. And if I actually get know someone, I never treat them just like people. That is silly. I learn to adapt to each individual. And I learned to better adapt to their sex. That is all, really. But goes with a full admittance of the sexual nature of things.

    edit: Well ... there IS a second reason.
    Volume creates quality. Not destiny. Volume. Pretty straight-forward, I'd think. And Volume requires a certain skill. Which requires understanding and practice. So there you go.
     
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  6. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    While a reasonable learning experience, and a phase I went through that perhaps everyone has to go through, truth is that the "thrill of the hunt" sex isn't as good as the "team sport practiced together" sex...nor as frequent even for the skilled hunter. Once you get past this phase I suggest an experiment in "just be absolutely brutally honest about yourself" and tell as many people as you can...internet, announcements in public places, whatever it takes. Because while you are doing the "thrill of the hunt player" shtick you are wasting opportunities at finding someone who would genuinely love you if they only knew you, really...which is, as I said, something that just has to be gotten through. But I suggest that eventually the other experiment will pay off better.
     
  7. Terxpahseyton

    Terxpahseyton How much Parmesan to put on your umbrella?

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    I don't disagree. And it is true that I did not have this phase yet and needed to have it for once (late bloomer blablabla). But I don't really differentiate the hunt and finding the right one, which is in the end all I want. They are to me two sides of the same coin. By being hunting, I am also ready for the right one. It really depends how you hunt, for that not to be the case. I for one don't try to trick anyone and, by now, don't really try to sleep with woman where I know I am not interested in anything meaningful. But I may "practice" if convenient.
    According to my mental time table I got at least 5 years to find her and try stuff. More is also possible, but it would slowly start to be also worrying to me.
     
  8. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    Hmm...cryptic.

    Dunno what "game" you're using, but I'd probably rather be single than creep women out.
     
  9. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    I dunno. "I learn to adapt to each individual," sounded very much like me during the hunting days. At some point I found "the one" and adapted to her. Fourteen years later we figured out that "adapted Tim" wasn't very happy and that "real Tim" was absolutely not what she had signed on for.
     
  10. Terxpahseyton

    Terxpahseyton How much Parmesan to put on your umbrella?

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    I don't do that anymore :p
    It is all about learning how to not do that, in a way. But for that you need not just theory, you need a sense for it. And that requires some trials and errors. It will feel bad at times, but as you grow, you will quickly not care anymore. And girls I creeped out later came back to me.
     
  11. Terxpahseyton

    Terxpahseyton How much Parmesan to put on your umbrella?

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    But my imperfections make me all the cuter ;)

    Yeah I dunno either. After all, I keep on jabbering about expierence, but I got actually zero with long-term relationships, sooo... all I can do is conclude. From my experiments so far, it is possible to step by step become more real without destroying the flow. Actually, it can intensify it. But that is just my impression so far.

    But after at least 3 years, the love-high in the form of dopamine and serotonin ends (both usually can not be high at the same time, unless drunk or in love - most of all dopamine goes down - bad for sex), and after at least 7 years, usually a serotonin crisis hits and it tanks. And things start to crash and burn. Those are things I haven't had, at least not in those time frames, but to master that crap, that is the real deal, I guess. And some master them well. But I feel like many don't.

    In any case, to understand women seems helpful.
     
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  12. AmazonQueen

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    I very much doubt there are any systems that work or games to play. Basically women are struggling along and making it up as they go just as much as men are.
     
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  13. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    Okay, but what are you trying to say here? "I learned some unspecified stuff and got more dates?" :confused:
     
  14. Terxpahseyton

    Terxpahseyton How much Parmesan to put on your umbrella?

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    I already said it: the philosophy which underpins game and pick-up. And its true. That is the message here. Not that I got more dates. That is more about a bit of evidence.
     
  15. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    But unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing any description of that philosophy...
     
  16. Terxpahseyton

    Terxpahseyton How much Parmesan to put on your umbrella?

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    I can also write down the book I mean but that felt eeky to me. Like I was advertising.

    Well if you know about the manosphere and pick-up-community and so forth you will have a first (albeit misleading) impression. I counted on that. I can go on, but I did not really plan to make this thread a seminar ;) In truth I am a bit of tired coaching some friends of mine.
     
  17. Hygro

    Hygro soundcloud.com/hygro/

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    He is.
    Fixed for reality. People with game, or manners, or etiquette, or character, or any other name for one's default social behaviors put others at ease more often than those who do not. Multiply that by social courage and it makes others even happier.
     
  18. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    How am I creeping women out by minding my own business and not hitting on them? Have you seen me interact in person with women? Because "creepy" is not an accusation to throw around lightly and you'd better have damned good reasoning for it.
     
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  19. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    As is, you're kinda just saying, "I did stuff differently and I'm not going to say what," which really isn't much of a starting point for discussion and sounds like clickbait
     
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    Yeah man, you better.
     

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