Hello everybody. I am playing a marathon game as Rome. Since the start I managed to conquer all the mediterranean, from Spain to Babylon, from Gaul to deep Egypt. Over the loooong game I managed to: - win the Rome UHV - prevent the spawn of Byzantines (being solid) - face the Arabian aggressive spawn and conquer Makkah (now “Macna”) - wipe the Moors back to Marrakus - refuse the Spain flip, conquer Madrid (now “Madralis” ) and make the Spanish civ collapse/disappear - refuse the France flip, conquer Paris (now “Parisia”) and make the French civ collapse/disappear - be attacked by the Holy Rome (Germany?) at their spawn, probably because the holy city for Islam is Carthago (isn’t it strange that they declare war to me even if my Empire Religion is Carholicism?) The biggest challenge of the game until now has been that of constantly being stable/solid by controlling overexpansion, the spreading of religions different than Catholicism (the Empire Religion I chose), working on spreading the Catholicism and to make the 45+ cities empire growing, focusing on finding the correct development for each city. At this point of the game I am focusing on improving the already good relationship with some selected civs: Ethiopia, Norway, Tibet and Germany. The game is ongoing (800-somethigg AD now, Russia spawned recently). India and Turkey collapsed, so this granted me more space to expand and acquire strategic luxury resources like spices and gems. Now I blocked the expansion of the Turks and secured the area until Persepolis and the border to India, with the Independent cities that will be conquered as soon as the expansion factor will allow it. After all this said: I would need some help with understanding how Vassals work. When Germany (Holy Rome) spawned and declared war to me, I sent the 3 generals (Scipio Africanus, Vespasianus and Traianus) with the army and stopped their attack. Just before me conquering Frankfurt (the capital of Holy Rome), the Germans were willingful to Capitulate and become a Vassal State, but immediately after me conquering Frankfurt and moving the armies towards the last two (basically undefended) cities they refused and keep refusing to become my Vassal. The same happens to Ethiopia, which is very underdeveloped and which I continuously keep sending gifts hoping for a Vassal State. How does this work? Why do they refuse and don’t propose? Any questions or suggest about the game?