[R&F] My National Park yields... 700+ Tourism?

ccjmne

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I don't get how this National Park can generate this much Tourism per turn:

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That's 722!

The tiles are 5, 5, 5 and 4 Appeal (total: 19), I'm not Teddy, there are no National Park tourism boost policies... there's a 3800% multiplier in there somewhere.
I do have:
- Computers technology researched (I think this bonus is counted here)
- Lots of Tourism Bonuses to civilizations I have a Trade Route with (I'm certain this bonus, which is per-civ, doesn't matter whatsoever here)

Game settings:
- All DLCs and Rise & Fall
- No community mods whatsoever
- Civ/Leader: Greece/Pericles
- Difficulty: Deity
- Start era: Ancient
- Game speed: Standard
- Map size: Small

For comparison, here's a Tourism breakdown that I understand (from the same game at the same time):

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- The Amphitheatre holds 2 GWoW: 2*4 = 8 Base Tourism
- Reyna w/ Curator promotion: +100% Tourism from Great Works in the city, 8+8 = 16
- Printing Technology: +100% Tourism, 16*2 = 32
- Computers Technology: +100% Tourism, 32*2 = 64

- The Archaelogical Museum contains 3 Artifacts: 3*3 = 9 Base Tourism
- It is themed (same Era, different Civilizations): +100% Tourism, 9+9 = 18
- Policy Card: Heritage Tourism: +100% Tourism, 18+9 = 27
- Computers Technology: +100% Tourism, 27*2 = 54

- The Broadcast Center has a Great Work of Music: 4 Base Tourism
- Reyna w/ Curator promotion: +100% Tourism from Great Works in the city, 4+4 = 8
- Computers Technology: +100% Tourism, 8*2 = 16

Now though, 722 Tourism for a National Park... doesn't add up.

The Reports view does confirm that Sparta displays a ridiculous amount of Tourism. It's a 4-pop city settled for the sole purpose of the additional Acropolis (Greek Theater Square) and the quick National Park.

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Just to be sure, I put down another National Park:

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Its tiles are 5, 4, 3 and 2 Appeal (total: 14). 392 Tourism means it's got a 2800% multiplier.
It's making me nuts!

Also, it appears the hidden tourism threshold went up from 150 * <original number of major civs> to 200 * <original number of major civs>, but I can't find that documented anywhere.
 
Ha!

Turns out it's just the numbers displayed in the Tourism lense AND the Reports view that are... randomly... generated?

The displayed value for the Tourism at the top of the screen (next to other yields) appears to be correct.
I'm not going to do all the maths, 'cause with the tourism from walls, from culture-yielding improvements... and half the rules being very obscure:
- sometimes boosts are multiplicative,
- sometimes they're additive,
- sometimes they're actually non-existant -- I'm looking at you, Mary Leakey...
Tourism calculations get tough.

My Reports view indicates 1830 Tourism (before I add in the ugliest National Park you've ever seen).
If you subtract 722 from that (the displayed values for my Eye of the Sahara National Park) and add back its expected value: (5+5+5+4) * 2 (w/ Computers)... you get: 1830 - 722 + (19) * 2 = 1146

It's all good.
Apart from the fact it's displayed wrong.
 
I am not that good at tourism. But that does look interesting. I hope to hear from those more keen on the subject. Thanks for sharing
 
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Ha!

Turns out it's just the numbers displayed in the Tourism lense AND the Reports view that are... randomly... generated?

The displayed value for the Tourism at the top of the screen (next to other yields) appears to be correct.
I'm not going to do all the maths, 'cause with the tourism from walls, from culture-yielding improvements... and half the rules being very obscure:
- sometimes boosts are multiplicative,
- sometimes they're additive,
- sometimes they're actually non-existant -- I'm looking at you, Mary Leakey...
Tourism calculations get tough.

My Reports view indicates 1830 Tourism (before I add in the ugliest National Park you've ever seen).
If you subtract 722 from that (the displayed values for my Eye of the Sahara National Park) and add back its expected value: (5+5+5+4) * 2 (w/ Computers)... you get: 1830 - 722 + (19) * 2 = 1146

It's all good.
Apart from the fact it's displayed wrong.
Its an error for sure... The numbers are not random though. I know this because higher appeal parks still display higher numbers on the lens/report than the lower appeals one... And they seem to be proportional, just not linearly so.
 
Just chalk it up to one of the many issues unresolved in the UI's explanation of its Cultural VC. I've given up trying to offer feedback.
 
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