My Spanish opening and dot mapping and maybe a walk through..

[Gumbolt]

While I wait for more comments on my Washington walk through i thought I would try to improve my game with a new map, new leader and a new game.

I am trying to improve my game play and start/ dotmapping.

Heres my plan. I will suggest my city locations and then i will let people critique me. I will need to scout out the land.

This game is Epic, continents, standard size world with a few huts around.

Our leader.

Spoiler :

The map at start. Theres a blue circle 1w. 1e will net clams/ pigs/ and corn. Should I leave a Pigs to waste. 1E allows better access to the coast in 2 places. Hmmmm. Where would you settle people.

Techwise I am thinking agriculture and starting with a worker. Then tech toward BW or AH for the pigs to help grow the city. Choices choices with this start!!!

Lets have your thoughts people!!!

 

[Gumbolt]

Just a thought. A city where the warrior is would allow 2 food and 4 hills. So perhaps send the settler wandering?

 

[kossin]

I'd settle 1E food is just too good, you get your GP farm right there.

Those are desert hills to the north and not good for production.

 

[Gumbolt]

1E would be strong for food and has 3 hills for production. So useful on many grounds.

There is sea to the west so it might hold another resource or something like iron or horse.

Whilst I await for others to back this decision I need to consider my tech path.

Agriculture, AH, mining, BW.

This tech path is difficult. We are expansive and mined hills will make faster worker production later. Getting fish, pigs and clams online early will also be a huge boost. hard to build a WB with low production.

Have i got this tech path right?

Would you settle in place or move E, W or somewhere else.

Post your opinions. Tomorrow we can plan a dot map.

I am actually thinking of starting a dot map request thread. Any thoughts on such a thread. it would be interesting for new players. Each week we could post a new map to dot map.

Not sure how people are placing the BFC of cities on the map in colour. Is this bug mode or something else? I just installed bog mode and i cant see this option.

 

[kossin]

Alt-X to place new dots, Ctrl-X to show/unshow dotmap.

 

[JBossch]

If you want to mix things up you could always go for early religion.

 

[Gumbolt]

Oooh Alt x works. Soo many colours to choose from.

For early religion you would normally need a resource with 3 commerce? This assumes I am not near Shaka or anyone nasty. I would also lose a turn moving settler.

 

[synthboy]

I vote 1E.

As to build queue, what are people's thoughts on Workboat first?

 

[kossin]

Techpath is difficult indeed. Not too sure actually, maybe you can try...

Ag>mining>BW>AH

Worker first then wb

improve corn, build 2 mines and by that time BW (turn 49) is in so you can chop the forest that's left. Hopefully you get some forest spreads.

 

[Gumbolt]

Going AG, mining/BW seems sensible as by time city is size 4 you have a strong worker/settler pump. You could go Ah before BW to allow for the pigs and city growth? There is very lil forest to chop.

This assume you dont beeline for a religion. Risky strategy!

 

[TheMeInTeam]

1E. AG ----> AH -----> Mining -----> BW.

 

[dirtyparrot]

^ I would do that too. AH before Mining seems better imo.

 

[Gumbolt]

It looks like we have a plan. I will move 1E tomorrow.

Ag/AH/ Mining/BW.

Would a slow tech to mining affect the expansive trait and worker builds? I will sleep on this thought.

I have monday off to play this a bit and prepare a map for you to all critique.

 

[vicawoo]

AH second mean you'll have worker downtime after the first farm.

 

[dirtyparrot]

AH second mean you'll have worker downtime after the first farm.

I think that the plan would be to build a WB first.

 

[Gumbolt]

I will get to ag and make a decision based on worker downtime. Whow knows I may pop AH in a hut. *shrugs*

 

[Gumbolt]

Okay played on a bit. The bad news is the neighbours are not good. Greeks and vikings. Nasty war mongers. I think an early rush might be needed.

Plan going ahead. I need copper and axes and to take out Alex before he starts spamming units.

Alternatively I could rex peacefully. The GLH might be a useful wonder with current city plan but I may get boxed in.

The pictures. Have a look at my city plan and see what you think. I have tried to use as much of map as possible. Chances are Alex will ruin this party. Going 1W at start would have got me a pig but messed up the copper city.

All thoughts would be welcome at this stage.

Spoiler :

 

[Negator_UK]

Personally I fear Ragnar - he builds HUGE stacks - I have beaten him at his own game before now, but he never ceases to amaze me, in ways no other AI does.

Either take him out first, or make sure he doesn't get too big a piece of Alex's butt.

 

[Gumbolt]

Any thoughts on the dot map?

I think ALex and Ragnar are PITA.

 

[Loki Strikes]

Play Alex and Ragnar off each other... they are both aggressive and easy to bribe, and I would adjust your dot map to grab those far south horses, but thats just because I <3 cavalry far too much