My take on developing traits

[darkkhon]

Hello everybody,I'm darkkhon,long time lurker.I want to present to whoever is interested my take on the trait evolution.It's a first draft,so please take it with a grain of salt.

It contains 3 tier evolution on both positive and negative traits.Not all of them are perfectly balanced but I'm working on it.Civilopedia displays them in order one tier level after the other-despite displaying them as having the same name(I hope to fix this soon).
Any feedback is appreciated-especially when it comes to what the AI chooses.I plan to make updates once a week depending on feedback and my own play through.

Here is the file.You probably already know where to put it

PS. In order to fully benefit from this mod mod you should use the game option start without positive traits.In some cases there is a large discrepancy between starting traits of a leader and its flavors-the leader chooses its traits based on its flavors.


V 1.3

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qxrlj2uo663p8w4/Assets.rar?dl=0

List of changes

Spoiler :

V 1.3

Now present as a proper game option.

Expansive,protective,humanitarian-flavor tweaks


V 1.2

Some traits are now mutually exclusive:

-scientific with spiritual and fanatical
-environmentalist with industrious
-aggressive with protective
-organized,excessive,cruel and barbaric with philosophical and creative


Some traits now have a shorter research time for certain specific technologies.


Philosophical-free artist with era advance on tier 2
Deceiver-free spy with era advance on tier 2
Spiritual-new cities start with state religion on tier 3
Nomad-second results from goody huts on tier 2,free great hunter with era advance on tier 3,and a few other small tweaks
Financial-free merchant with era advance on tier 3
Creative-free artist with era advance on tier 2,culture bonus increase
Organized,seafaring-small tweaks
Idealistic,philosophical-flavor tweaks
Barbaric-fixed small error


Fixed display issue with iBonusPopulationinNewCities and TechResearchModifiers tags.

Note-free specialist with era advance grants a free settled specialist in ALL cities that exist on the moment of era
advance

V 1.1

Added proper civilopedia display
Added environmentalist trait-no leader has it,not yet

Removed all anarchy modifiers and compensated accordingly where necessary
Overall-in a few casess removed some of the less important buildings
Small tweaks to excessive,protective,industrious

Seafaring-added sea yields,experience for sea units,bonus to fishing boats
Humanitarian-slight increased disease reduction,bonus to doctor specialist,free doctor with era advance on tier 2
Expansive-cities start with 1 extra pop on tier 3
Politician-bonus to great statesman,adds free specialists
Scientific-increased upkeep,small increase to science,increased war weariness
Creative-bonus to great people
Financial-small pullution,disease and crime malus;commerce bonus on village line improvement
Agricultural-added water pollution,bonus to farms

 

[majaczek]

I already have worked on it here

 

[darkkhon]

I know.That is why I said that is my take on it.We seem to have somewhat different approaches.

 

[majaczek]

we still have lstraits gameoption
just we need to choose which of our options are basic and which is alternative

 

[Thunderbrd]

Would you be willing to express this on a spreadsheet?

 

[JosEPh_II]

@darkkhon,
Everyone is Welcome to make Modmods, Everyone.

@Majaczek,
You may have competing Modmods as Making Modmods over any part of the Mod is Open too everyone. Competition may happen.

JosEPh

 

[darkkhon]

Would you be willing to express this on a spreadsheet?

Do you really think it would help that much?Isn't easier to just download the file and see it properly in pedia?

 

[Thunderbrd]

As a modder, for me the answer is no. Could mess with my file set leading to accidents that erode the integrity of the SVN.

That and I find it beneficial to read a good spreadsheet. Allows for better analysis.

 

[majaczek]

darkkhon, I use online xml to json converter, then online json to csv converter (csv is "comma separated value" spreadsheet). Then eventually You can save result as xlsx .

 

[Thunderbrd]

It's still very difficult to read and absorb that way. Sure it gets the data onto a spreadsheet but that's about all it does.

You've seen the ones I've done right?

 

[majaczek]

Yeah, they are much more tidy.
But it seems my Imagination has a problem to do it your way.
I thought we have a deal - I had just a few minutes to convert and you have a spreadsheet.
But I see advertising that way may be wrong, so I'm sorry a bit.

 

[Thunderbrd]

Yeah, they are much more tidy.
But it seems my Imagination has a problem to do it your way.
I thought we have a deal - I had just a few minutes to convert and you have a spreadsheet.
But I see advertising that way may be wrong, so I'm sorry a bit.

I am trying to work through it but I don't have a lot of time to. If I did, I'd do my own set.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Btw Koskling provided a utility to extract selected bits from an XML file into a csv file see here

 

[darkkhon]

Updated first post with a csv version.

 

[majaczek]

Thanks Dancing Hoskuld, but the tool need template, and I can't seem to find one for Traits.
Could You supply one? or I just need to search it? I didn't think that it's same as schema

 

[Koshling]

Responding to PM here, since having it on this thread seems better than just a PM reply. For reference the PM'd questions was:

Please help us with your parser
we need template for Traits xml

I'm afraid I cannot really remember how that parser was supposed to operate (too long ago), but more importantly writing a template for a particular entity category (traits in this case) is something that requires an understanding of the trait XML format, which I am not particularly familiar with.
I still have the source code for the parser if that would be useful for anyone, so I could easily provide it via GIT or something if that would be any use...

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Thanks Dancing Hoskuld, but the tool need template, and I can't seem to find one for Traits.
Could You supply one? or I just need to search it? I didn't think that it's same as schema

The template is how you define what you want out of the process. There should be an example in that link somewhere. I lost all mine when I lost my main hard drive and backup hard drive in the same month.

 

[darkkhon]

Update to V 1.1

Also I would like some help with these 2 tags DisallowedTraitTypes and bBansNonStateReligions.

I tried to apply them,but I must be doing something wrong.If someone could provide working examples I would appreciated.

 

[Thunderbrd]

I will have to try to remember to look into those tags this weekend for you. Are you clear on how to use the schema to define how you're supposed to setup the syntax for tags? Also, we're not above having some bugs in some traits tags here. Many tags are not yet tested.

 

[darkkhon]

I'm just starting to familiarize myself with the schema file and it might take a while to understand it more fully-both tags are present in the schema file.I'm probably missing something or just doing it wrong.Any help is appreciated.The first tag is the most important one,the second one has a very specific use and it can wait.