NATO kill 13 Afghan civilians

So.... what?

Are we gonna start a thread each time something like that happens? I mean, how many civilians did Taleban kill last week? It's a war out there, you know.
 
So.... what?

Are we gonna start a thread each time something like that happens? I mean, how many civilians did Taleban kill last week? It's a war out there, you know.


sorry, I didnt realise your uncaring attitude towards Pakistanis also extended to Afghans
 
sorry, I didnt realise your uncaring attitude towards Pakistanis also extended to Afghans

My uncaring attitude extends towards everything what is ordinary.

Seriously, every day, there is some massacre in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Middle East in general, in Africa or in Asia.

We usually start a thread about them only if they're somehow special. What makes this case special, according to you?
 
My uncaring attitude extends towards everything what is ordinary.

Seriously, every day, there is some massacre in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Middle East in general, in Africa or in Asia.

We usually start a thread about them only if they're somehow special. What makes this case special, according to you?


I can start a thread if I feel like starting it, I dont have to pass your criteria. If you dont want to read the story, dont read it
 
It's a war. Stuff happens.
 
We are fighting one of the cleanest wars in the history of mankind given scale and the timetable. Some would argue making it any more clean will just make it worse, given scale and timetable.
 
Sorry about that, but like others have pointed out, mistakes happen in wars.
 
But it shouldn't, how can we improve it so that it does not happen?

I suppose if you ask real nice, the enemy might be willing to move to a wide open expanse away from all civilians and radio their position in to NATO. Maybe even get them to pop off a smoke grenade when they hear the aircraft coming in for the air strike. :rolleyes:

It's going to happen from time to time if the enemy moves among the civilian population. However, note it isn't even confirmed that it really happened this time...

The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) confirmed it had bombed an "insurgent position" but said it had no evidence civilians died.

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An Afghan national army local commander said 20 Taleban were killed in the attack from the air and that only three civilians were injured.
 
Because what we end up with is a defeated military but no war weariness in the populous.

Also, our inability to be brutal emboldens certain forms of tactics by enemies that are detrimental to civilians. If hiding behind civilians didn't work, people wouldn't do it. It does, so they do.

I don't normally quote from this source, but he did get a lot of things right, substitute proper nouns where appropriate:

"Cesare Borgia was reputed cruel, yet his cruelty restored Romagna, united it, and brought it to order and obedience; so that if we look at things in their true light, it will be seen that he was in reality far more merciful than the people of Florence, who, to avoid the imputation of cruelty, suffered Pistoja to be torn to pieces by factions."
 
If the enemy is hiding among civilians and effectively using the latter as shields, then the enemy killed the civilians, not NATO. Reasonable people should get this into their heads, especially when talking about the Middle East.

The only possible mistake is when there is actually no credible threat in that location.
 
If the enemy is hiding among civilians and effectively using the latter as shields, then the enemy killed the civilians, not NATO.

QFT.

Not only that, repeated examples of us making this tactic unviable will cause it to be abandoned.
 
Actually legally this isnt true. Natuions have a duty of care to civilians wether or not they are amongs the enemy
 
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