Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Godwynn, Sep 18, 2009.
Should NATO and Russia team up for missile defense?
This sounds great! It's about time to erase xenophobia and link up. There's no reason to continue obsoleted decades-old aggression.
Link what, exactly? There is nothing to be linked. The Russians could, in the best case, offer to send data from their (aging...) early warning system, but there is nothing NATO couldn't live without.
It's another public relations nonsense which will bring no results and change exactly nothing on the situation. In a year or two, after the Russians torpedo Obama's cherished peace visions, all will return to "normal" situation of the Cold Peace.
It's just a theory, but I think the Russians want a war between Iran and the West and they will do what they can to make Iran more stubborn in order to bring it about.
Far as I'm aware Russia doesn't have a missile defense system so what exactly would we link up and why exactly would we want Russia to have our missile defense technology?
What harm do we suffer from Russia having our missile defense technology? Our missile defense technology is not intended for use against Russia, and moreover could not successfully be used against Russia even if we tried.
I imagine that we would deploy our technology in Russia. They own lots of territory near one of the countries that the missile defense technology would be primarily used against, namely Iran.
From my understanding though, Russia supports Iran. I know they have supplied them some.
I could be wrong though.
They can sell the information to Iran(or anyone else for that matter). Plus defense systems cost money so we lose that.
Perhaps you haven't looked at a map recently, but Iraq and Afghanistan border Iran. It doesn't get any nearer than that.
It is hardly in Russia's best interest to have a nuclear power next door.
Iran and Russia are on relatively friendly terms so it probably doesn't bother them all that much. Besides they've already got China, Alaska, and North Korea right next to them. Plus I'm guessing Moscow is within reach of UK and French nuclear weapons so from their perspective they don't really have anything to lose.
Good move, hope it were not just words as usual.
It has, regional.
Data from radar stations and satellites?
Nuclear power plant technology.
Just as the US is in range of Russia and China. They don't have anything to lose.
Like red_elk has said, I hope it is not just words. Why couldn't they have proposed it two years ago?
It's amazing how people gobble up every publicity stunt, especially when they don't have even the slightest idea what it is about
Sorry, I don't want to ruin your olive-branch euphoria Let's wait for a while, it will go away on its own.
I feel dirty agreeing with you, but you're right. There is no tangible benefit to this, it's just public relations. Even if Russia accepts the offer, and NATO actually follows up, it won't result in wholesale changes in the actions of either side.
Thank you for your consideration. You can start by retiring from this thread. If you really mean what you say that is.
The US offered a long time ago, the Russians (I guess) accept now only because we agreed not to go it on our own. The Russian government is not a threat to basic freedom/human rights, why not?
Well obviously it won't achieve much because even the missile shield itself isn't all that effective. But this is a step in the right direction diplomatically. A diplomatic overture is an achievement in and of itself.
What the hell does 'linking' the missile defense systems mean anyway?
If this statement ever becomes true, the planet is screwed.
Its like in C&C Generals where the Patriots can spot for each other.
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