Natural Disasters: Oh, does my native land love to kill...

[Estebonrober]

I mean violence is in the air...

So as a born and raised midwestern kid I've spent my whole life admiring these systems when they come through. the power, the simplicity and complexity there within, you know real awe...

anyways the footage is amazing... and these kids doing these lives nationwide storm coverage like Ryan Hall or these guys is an amazing asset I recommend to anyone I can.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Moderator Action: So what is this thread all about? What is the content you want folks to contribute? Thanks.

 

[Estebonrober]

Sorry, I was just sharing, I guess it is not obvious even in the US....

So, amid all the carnage of American domestic politics, mother nature has been doing its thing to my region of the world. In a show of support to the good King of America Trump, Mother Nature has decided to expedite the deportation of some Midwesterners for all time... suffice to say these random bombing runs can play havoc with our ability to increase our quarterly GDP output for the Good King and his trusted advisors. With thoughts and prayers though we carry on, ready to dismantle any standing structure the Good K deems fit

No, really, its just an amazing tornado clip from a storm chasing streamer.... the level of minute-to-minute reporting provided by these streamers has and will continue to save lives.... So, if like many of us no cable, no antenna, just streaming rural people in the US, these guys might just save your life.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Moderator Action: I changed the title just a bit to make this a place to post about natural disasters that plague our world: earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, volcanoes, drought, locusts, etc. This does not replace the local weather thread.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Thank you, Birdjaguar. Though if we have any local natural disasters, I'm more inclined to use the local weather thread. Since it's local. I just didn't want my thread to get political.

 

[Lexicus]

Note that our ability to predict severe weather is going to take a hit due to the administration's gutting of NOAA. Over on X, the everything app, the administration's mindless defenders are saying "why do we spend billions on weather forecasting when I can just get the weather off an app on my phone"

 

[Arwon]

Apparently we have an area bigger than Texas entirely flooded

“It’s covering flood plain areas that haven’t been inundated in European memory,” she says, although evidence from soils and fish genetics suggest floods of this scale have happened before.

Inland flood waters are expected to take weeks, or even months, to move downstream into South Australia, towards Kati Thanda–Lake Eyre.

It's going to flow southwest for a few weeks and full up the lake system in northern SA that only gets filled a few times a century.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Not natural disasters where I live, not possibility of floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. Only risk are earthquakes and tsunamis but very remote. (knocking on wood)

 

[Samson]

Nature is doing her thing, slightly effected by us. It is humans that turn natural events into disasters. First by being places and then by failing to adequately prepare for nature.

 

[Ordnael]

Not natural disasters where I live, not possibility of floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. Only risk are earthquakes and tsunamis but very remote. (knocking on wood)

You did have that major flood last year in Valencia! That was ugly!
And we've been having some serious wildfires in late summer every other year!

 

[Thorgalaeg]

You did have that major flood last year in Valencia! That was ugly!
And we've been having some serious wildfires in late summer every other year!

Valencia floods every year but I was being more geographically granular. I don't live in Valencia but in Cádiz. Wildfires are a very real possibility here too, but i do not consider them natural disasters as most are intentional.

 

[Ordnael]

Wildfires are a very real possibility here too, but i do not consider them natural disasters as most are intentional.

Well yes, grass and such don't spontaneously catch on fire, but atmospheric conditions that worsen a wildfire are getting more extreme.

 

[Arwon]

Wildfires are a very real possibility here too, but i do not consider them natural disasters as most are intentional.

This strikes me as a strange position to take. Bushfires work the same whether they were started by lightning, a rogue cigarette, a barbecue, a welding spark, electric lines, or the overheating spotlight from a military helicopter, or by deliberate arson, and their severity is determined by climate conditions rather than their initial cause.

Though here at least, it's generally lightning starting the bad ones, because they get big in remote inaccessible or mountainous areas then move into dangerous areas.

 

[Ordnael]

I get where @Thorgalaeg is pointing at because, here most wildfires (if not all) are started by negligent farmers burning crop waste or agricultural machines but then we also have very intentional ones with media reporting on remains of pyrotechnics devices found among the burned forests.

 

[Snowygerry]

To clear land for real-estate development ?

 

[Ordnael]

Media says it's mostly to make profit on buying way cheaper burned trees and selling them to industries that (can) work with that wood. Media also tells the story of some rural village downtrodden guy that gets paid to do the "deed".

 

[Snowygerry]

Seems to be a thing yes, never heard of it, tnx for reply.

https://www.forbes.com/feature/archie-emmerson-timber-forest-fires-logging/#2d01bf0064f9

It's a profitable niche. While Emmerson refused to comment on his company's finances, Forbes estimates that Sierra Pacific, which Emmerson owns entirely with his two sons and daughter, has operating profits (before adding back depreciation and amortization) of approximately $375 million annually on sales of $1.5 billion. Salvage timber, which it sometimes buys for pennies on a dollar, is a significant contributor.

 

[Estebonrober]

Nature is doing her thing, slightly effected by us. It is humans that turn natural events into disasters. First by being places and then by failing to adequately prepare for nature.

You're right there are no disasters on jupiter yet...

fwiw the US does a lot of prescriptive burnign as well, but that would only count as a disaster if they lost control

 

[Samson]

Millions told to stay indoors as China braces for strong winds

Workers have been told to hurry home, classes have been suspended and outdoor events have been cancelled as northern China braces for extreme winds this weekend.

Millions have been urged to stay indoors, with some state media outlets warning that people weighing less than 50kg (110lbs - about eight stone) may be "easily blown away".

Winds reaching 150kph (93mph) are expected to sweep Beijing, Tianjin and other parts of Hebei region from Friday to Sunday, as a cold vortex moves southeast from Mongolia.

For the first time in a decade, Beijing has issued an orange alert for gales - the second-highest in a four-tier weather warning system.

 

[Estebonrober]

Millions told to stay indoors as China braces for strong winds

Workers have been told to hurry home, classes have been suspended and outdoor events have been cancelled as northern China braces for extreme winds this weekend.

Millions have been urged to stay indoors, with some state media outlets warning that people weighing less than 50kg (110lbs - about eight stone) may be "easily blown away".

Winds reaching 150kph (93mph) are expected to sweep Beijing, Tianjin and other parts of Hebei region from Friday to Sunday, as a cold vortex moves southeast from Mongolia.

For the first time in a decade, Beijing has issued an orange alert for gales - the second-highest in a four-tier weather warning system.

100 mph straight line winds took off about half my roof five years ago, I hope they are not as bad as predicted.