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Potato McWhiskey has a video discussing how Culture Victories work on comparing Naturalists v Rock Bands (here).
Couple of questions for the Brain Trust, particularly @Victoria .
First, PMW discusses Domestic Tourists (which are based on a Civs total culture including Inspirations), Foreign Tourists (Domestic Tourists travelling to other Civs) and Visiting Tourists (other Civs Tourists Visiting your Civ). The way PMW describes CV, to win you need to have more Visiting Tourists (which your basically earn through Tourism, ie x Tourism attracts y Visiting Tourists) than other Civs have Domestic Tourists. The but I’m not sure about is this: PMW says when you acquire Visiting Tourists you do so by reducing (ie stealing) other Civs Domestic Tourists, ie getting more Visiting Tourists reduces other Civs Domestic Tourists. Is this right? I knew your Visiting Tourists had to exceed everyone else’s Domestic Tourists, but I didn’t realise your Tourism actually reduced other Civ’s Domestic Tourists.
Second, PMW says that National Parks earn Visiting Tourists (ie steal Domestic Tourists) from every Civ you’ve meet, whereas Rock Bands only steal Domestic Tourists from one specific Civ (igniting promotions). So, eg, a National Park earnings say 1 Visiting Tourist per 10 turns will steal 1 Visiting Tourist from every Civ you have met every 10 turns (so, if there were 7 other Civs, you’d earn 7 Visiting Tourists each 10 turns). A Rock Band might steal eg 10 Visiting Tourists when used, but they all come from one Civ. So, you might earn the same or even more Visiting Tourists than using a National Park, but you only reduce the Domestic Tourists of one Civ instead of all the Civs.
Third, as a corollary of point two, basically National Parks are better earlier in the game when they have more turns over which they can passively earn Visiting Tourists, whereas Rock Bands are better at the end of the game to reduce the Domestic Tourists of the next biggest Civ and out your Visiting Tourists total over the top. Is that right?
Couple of questions for the Brain Trust, particularly @Victoria .
First, PMW discusses Domestic Tourists (which are based on a Civs total culture including Inspirations), Foreign Tourists (Domestic Tourists travelling to other Civs) and Visiting Tourists (other Civs Tourists Visiting your Civ). The way PMW describes CV, to win you need to have more Visiting Tourists (which your basically earn through Tourism, ie x Tourism attracts y Visiting Tourists) than other Civs have Domestic Tourists. The but I’m not sure about is this: PMW says when you acquire Visiting Tourists you do so by reducing (ie stealing) other Civs Domestic Tourists, ie getting more Visiting Tourists reduces other Civs Domestic Tourists. Is this right? I knew your Visiting Tourists had to exceed everyone else’s Domestic Tourists, but I didn’t realise your Tourism actually reduced other Civ’s Domestic Tourists.
Second, PMW says that National Parks earn Visiting Tourists (ie steal Domestic Tourists) from every Civ you’ve meet, whereas Rock Bands only steal Domestic Tourists from one specific Civ (igniting promotions). So, eg, a National Park earnings say 1 Visiting Tourist per 10 turns will steal 1 Visiting Tourist from every Civ you have met every 10 turns (so, if there were 7 other Civs, you’d earn 7 Visiting Tourists each 10 turns). A Rock Band might steal eg 10 Visiting Tourists when used, but they all come from one Civ. So, you might earn the same or even more Visiting Tourists than using a National Park, but you only reduce the Domestic Tourists of one Civ instead of all the Civs.
Third, as a corollary of point two, basically National Parks are better earlier in the game when they have more turns over which they can passively earn Visiting Tourists, whereas Rock Bands are better at the end of the game to reduce the Domestic Tourists of the next biggest Civ and out your Visiting Tourists total over the top. Is that right?
