NaziWorld1944-Germany have win the WW2

Hitlergrad? Himmlerstadt?


The scenario itself is good; it's a nice break from the Barbarossa map. My few complains are these:

- I'm aware this is a scenario in which Germany won, but renaming the Soviet cities after Nazis is borderline offensive to me -- even if it fits the idea of conquest.

- While anyone can use the Panama Canal, only the Turks can travel through Istanbul.

- I assume you speak German as many of these cities are still in German (Mekka, Isfahan, Habana, Damaskus....) This isn't a big deal (it'd be like me saying Munich instead of München), but I can translate the cities for you.

- Your American/Canadian city placement is really bad. I'll fix this too, if you want.

- Finally, this really should be a modern map.
 
I don't think it should be a modern map. It would be good in '45.

Several things disturb me. The city placing is horrible and the naming to practically ever East European city to ___stadt isn't really unique.

I think that Rommelstadt (Tunis), Tripoli, and El Alemein should be Italian as well as Egypt, and where Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti are as well as perhaps the Sudan, Tanzania, and Kenya. Mussolini dreamed of creating a new Roman Empire which would encompass Italy, the Balkans, North Africa, and East Africa.

Japan should have Nanking, Chungking, and Nanching.

You also should have more civs.. this would seem the most appropriate:


Germany
Italy
Spain
Portugal
Romania
Finland
Commonwealth
Free-French
Free-Dutch
Free-Belgians
Gorki Regime
China
Japan
USA
Canada
Mexico
Brazil
Argentina/Chile/Uruguay
Colombia/Venezuela/Ecuador
Peru/Bolivia/Paraguay
Persia (Iran)
Pan-Arabs
Turkey
Ireland
India (includes Pakistan, Bangladesh)
Tibet
 
Yeah... there should be more unique names for the conquered Russian cities.

Also, Hitlergrad doesn't really make a lot of sense since it's using Hitler's name with a Russian suffix.

In the book The Children's War (great read btw), Goringstadt is built right next to the ruins of Warsaw, which is completely annihilated in retaliation for Polish insurrection.

Of course, Russia is also not really conquered in that timeline either.

I think this scenario could be good, but I think it has to be developed more... there has to be some kind of explanation as to why Germany won...

There's a hundred different points of divergence to choose from.

The other thing is, I think that if Britain and France were really lost for good, and the war was in fact over, I think that their former territories would stop calling themselves "Free French", "Free British" etc. Hard to have a British Empire without Britain...
 
Try changing the Russian cities to burgs, and bergs to make them seem more conquered. St. Petersburg is probaly good to change back, maybe Volgaburg for Stalingrad..
 
Maybe just put a big ruin on Leningrad, with about 20 German workers. I heard stories of them planning to completely raze it and capture the entire population, in order to demoralize the Russians.
 
Hi
I'm working at the moment at a new Naziworld scenario!!
give me tipps for this new scenario
thank you
 
Hmm. Using my own map I've begun such a scenario.

Background:
The Battle of Britain is won by the Third Reich because of the continual attacks on RAF airfields instead of British cities. Operation Sea Lion almost became a reality until Britain suited for peace because of the imminent threat and British defeats in Africa. However Winston Churchill vowed not to give up the fight for the liberation of Europe and declared it was better to live and fight another day.

On the eastern front, the Soviet Union were being pushed further to the east. Germany took Stalingrad, Leningrad, and Moscow. The Soviets continued to fight, their government taking refuge throughout the remnants of Russia, establishing headquarters at Kazan. The U.S.S.R.'s far east was under attack from the Japanese and Vladivostok, Sakhalinsk and the surrounding area were invaded and conquered by the Imperial Marines. The Soviet republics are taking the Union's faltering power and unity to regain indepence; causing more problems for the communist dictatorship.

The Japanese did attack Pearl Harbor on December 6, 1941 and the U.S. engaged in a grusome war against an empire they once considered inferior. The Japanese were victorious at the Battle of Midway although it came with a heavy cost, never-the-less they destroyed the bulk of America's fleet. The Japanese moved further east expanding their empire and eventually raided Los Angeles, San Fransisco, Seattle, and Vancouver. Germany declared war on the U.S. but no fighting occured between the two super powers. They signed an accord which prevented any war amongst eachother although they aided the other's enemy with weaponry, supplies, and intelligence.

No more fighting occurred in Western Europe except for several internal conflicts which were quickly smothered by the Germans. Rommel returned from Africa and attempted to depose of the Führer, creating a civil war within the Reich, it was eventually stomped out as well and Rommel and his supporters were executed. As a result of this small civil war several occupied countries attempted failed rebellions. The Soviets were able to push further west and retook Stalingrad, but failed reclaiming Moscow and other key cities.

In 1946, German-aided Boer guerillas waged war against British South Africa and declared the Orange Free State after taking Johannesburg, Bloemfontein, Pietersburg, and Pretoria. British and Anti-Nazi Afrikaners fought back with only a little success. The British aware of Hitler's role in the uprisings declared war once again on the Third Reich with a coalition with the U.S., Canada, A.N.Z.A.C, Brazil, and the Free-French, Belgians, Dutch, etc. Germany however had added Spain and Pan-Arab nationalists to the Axis.

Now with World War II back in action, who will win? The bewildered Allies or the exhausted Axis?

Alliances:
Allies:
United States
Great Britain
Canada
A.N.Z.A.C.
Free-French
Free-Dutch
Free-Belgians
Soviet Union
Brazil
China

Axis:
Germany
Italy
Japan
Romania
Finland
Spain
Orange Free-State
Arab Nationalists
Cossacks

Neutral:
Portugal
Turkey
Mexico
Argentina/Uruguay
Chile
Bolivarian Republics
Peru/Paraguay
Persia (Iran)
Tibet

Soviet Seperatists:
Altay Krai
Ossetian League
White Russians

Anyone like?
 
Just to point out someting the teame called A.N.Z.A.C. should be called something diffetent because it stands for Austraian and New Zealnd Army Corps.
 
I know that.. I think that name would be the best for Australia/New Zealand because it explains their stance.. I could always make them part of Great Britain as the Commonwealth which I might do because I have already filled up the 31 civ list.

I am split on the decision. I could always name them Australia/New Zealand.. too long though.
 
Mobilize, I think I'd prefer yours and you should probally post your own thread.... To me, this scenario comes too close to being neo-nazi propaganda than simply an AU (alternate universe) scenario. I'm simply uncomfortable playing it. I apologize fully if I'm wrong; it may just be a language problem.
 
I think that this'd be cool too... I think that the timeline for GSG9's should just be slightly different... The Battle of Britain is won by the Germans as you said, but they manage to pull off a successful invasion in Operation Sea Lion and they set up a fascist state in England.

Much of the British Navy, including one aircraft carrier, is turned over to the Germans, but others escape, refusing to take orders from the Germans.

Great Britain itself has been knocked out of the war, but the rest of the British territories are determined to fight on and liberate the homeland.

Without the Great Aircraft Carrier of Britain, the Americans have no way to get over to Europe except through Africa... but Rommel manages to secure northern Africa by early 1942, and so that means of entry is cut off. They'll have to fight northward from Nigeria, but that will take years. Meanwhile, the Americans do much better against the Japanese in the Pacific Theater.

But disaster strikes... unmolested by Allied bombing raids and having handily defeated the Russians on the Eastern Front, Germany has had plenty of time to develop it's super weapons. Amerika Bombers begin raining destruction on New York, Washington, and Boston by the spring of 1946. Then a German ramjet bomber flying at suborbital altitude drops a dirty bomb on the city of St. Louis deep within the American heartland. With that, the U.S. government sues for peace and is forced not only to make peace with Germany but also to make peace with Japan in spite of all of the gains made in the Pacific.

1947...

In the wake of the devestation, the world is being reorganized along new and terrifying lines. Germany has been forced to make peace with the Communists of Russia, but it is very likely that soon fighting with recommence... since Soviet partisans continue to wreak havoc in German-occupied Russia and eastern Europe. India has been lost to the Japanese as well as all of Southeast Asia and northern Australia. Fighting continues, however, but without support, they will not hold out for long. Resistance in India, Southeast Asia, China, and Australia is fierce... the Japanese are losing a lot of men and also inflicting horrific casualties on the locals.

In Brazil, the fascist Integralists threaten to take control of the government thereby starting a domino effect within Latin America. Getulio Vargas must not fall if South America is to be held by the Allies. In South Africa, the Afrikaners under Oswald Pirow rebel against the British control in South Africa. They have 150,000 soldiers and even more members of their movement.

The Americans meanwhile are biding their time. They will not let the slaughter of thousands of innocent Americans go unpunished. They are rapidly developing nuclear weapons... but within the country, there is a rising voice crying that the destruction has been a lesson... a lesson that America must join with the fascists, that if it had not been for the "socialist" leader Roosevelt, America would not have had this terribly tragedy befall it. The country is on the verge of being torn in two.

I think Canada ought to be grouped with the Free British.
There should be a separate Afrikaner group.
There maybe even ought to be Fascist Americans and Integralists sprinkled throughout their territories...
Also, there should be paramilitary forces throughout German and Japanese-controlled territories.
 
I think the head of the British Fascist should be the Duke of Windsor...He was a pretty iffy guy on his alligance..Maybe don't lock the Germans and Japanese in an alliance..I think that a cold war could have easily developed had they won the war...Like the USSR and allies, they never really liked eachother, but had commen enemies.

Maybe give the Japanese some puppet states similar the the German ones in India, Indochina, Burma, and Indonesia..Maybe a wiped out nationalist China but Communist geurillas still fighting.
 
augurey said:
Mobilize, I think I'd prefer yours and you should probally post your own thread.... To me, this scenario comes too close to being neo-nazi propaganda than simply an AU (alternate universe) scenario. I'm simply uncomfortable playing it. I apologize fully if I'm wrong; it may just be a language problem.

As I am German, I can assure you, your feeling is correct and it is not just a language problem. This smells like neo-nazi all over. :mad:
 
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