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Negotiating with terrorists?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by HawkeyeGS, Mar 31, 2006.

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Governments should negotiate with terrorists.

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  1. Kayak

    Kayak Partisan

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    Depends on the terrorist dosn't it and their goal. ETA in Spain can be dealt with and there are others. But as soon as they an ultiamate (non-political) goal, that makes things difficult.
     
  2. PrinceOfLeigh

    PrinceOfLeigh Wigan, England

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    Not working in Israel though is it?
     
  3. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    I wouldn't want Homer Simpson negotiating on my behalf. ;
     
  4. Evil Tyrant

    Evil Tyrant Eccentric Dictator

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    Sure we can negotiate with them. It is simple, tell them to surrender or we will destroy them. Those are our terms, take them or leave them. If they refuse, then we will just have to keep killing them.
     
  5. Sidhe

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    Brilliant that's an excellent solution. Do you have any idea how many recruits the IRA got in the year of Bloody Sunday, almost triple the normal numbers, also when the English decided to wipe out a few IRA members to try and stem the terrorist threat, recruitment dpubled or trippled, what your talking about is throwing oil at the fire. Everyone knows the best way to deal with terrorism is not to try and destroy it but to make sure it burns out. Unless of course you mean genocide, in which case you'll find the Islamic Middle East at openly at war with Israel.
     
  6. Evil Tyrant

    Evil Tyrant Eccentric Dictator

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    So much the worse for them,they have already drawn the bloody sword of war, to show them anything but strength and confidence will only encourage them. No, the only negotiations are for their surrender.
     
  7. Kayak

    Kayak Partisan

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    That sounds like a Roman solution to me. What century did you say you were from?
     
  8. anarres

    anarres anarchist revolutionary

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    Amazing how much total lack of understanding there is here....

    Do you guys think terrorists do it for fun or just because they are mentally unstable?? :crazyeye:

    These people do it for ideological reasons, and whether you agree with them or not, to take an ideological rather than pragmatic stance is asking for total war.

    I guess some people don't actually care about solutions... they just care about ideology. The terrorists and most of you guys. :crazyeye:
     
  9. MobBoss

    MobBoss Off-Topic Overlord

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    If you negotiate with them...you legitimize them.

    Plain and simple.
     
  10. amadeus

    amadeus めっちゃしんどい

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    The IRA's goal was only to secure independence for Northern Ireland, not to impose their fanatic religious views on the UK. The difference is that the IRA can be negotiated with, not like these freaks were fighting in the Middle East.
     
  11. Rik Meleet

    Rik Meleet Top predator Retired Moderator

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    Kinda funny, the members of nations that have been in contact with terrorism for an extended period of time, let's call them the experts, say "Yes - it is smart to negociate" while the terrorism-rookies (mainly USA) say "NO - it legalizes them and encourages them".

    I'll take the expert's word.
     
  12. Neonanocyborgasm

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    ETA was only negotiable because they came from a position of weakness. ETA had next to no popular support, and achieved nothing, despite decades of attacks. They recently disbanded.

    Terrorists are really only interested in making demands, otherwise they wouldn't be terrorizing, just negotiating. When terrorists allow for negotiation, it is either because they begin to feel themselves in a position of weakness, or because they are trying to manipulate the negotiation to make more demands and more threats. There are decidedly few terrorist organizations that have "gone legit" and become political parties, and these transformations usually come about after exhaustion.
     
  13. Sahkuhnder

    Sahkuhnder Delusions of grandeur

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    Isn't Israel's official policy to not negotiate?
     
  14. Sidhe

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    That says it all really. Do Americans all think like you or are you a minority I truly hope so?
     
  15. Sahkuhnder

    Sahkuhnder Delusions of grandeur

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    All Americans don't think like anything in particular. We span the entire religious and political spectrums and frequently argue amongst ourselves about every conceivable topic.

    I suspect you could also substitute the word 'Europeans' for 'Americans' in the above statement and it would still be equally true.
     
  16. amadeus

    amadeus めっちゃしんどい

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    If you're talking about Northern Ireland, I'll say it again: their goal isn't to kill every last Briton and impose some kind of ultra-orthodox Catholic rule on the entire planet.
     
  17. Elrohir

    Elrohir RELATIONAL VALORIZATION

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    The only negotiation governments should have with terrorists, as I see it, is when a government employee pops a couple rounds into their heads. They can surrender, or they can die, those are their only two options.
     
  18. shadowdude

    shadowdude cynic in training

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    Can you give an example of an "expert" country that has been in contact with muslim terrorists for an extended period of time and has successfully completed negociations?
     
  19. Rik Meleet

    Rik Meleet Top predator Retired Moderator

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    You are assuming way too much.
    First of all; the question was about "Negotiating with terrorists?" not Muslim terrorists in particular. Secondly the question is about whether governments should negotiate with terrorists or not - not about "only use negotiations when dealing with terrorists".

    In the Japanese Embassy hostage crisis in Peru in 1997 negotiations were used to gain time to build a tunnel in case the negotiations itself didn't succeed.
     
  20. MobBoss

    MobBoss Off-Topic Overlord

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    Uhm...as an FYI, negotiaing with the IRA has only basically resulted in the fragmentation of the organization.

    There are still sub-groups of the former IRA wishing to do harm to Britain. So, in my opinion, dealing with them doesnt do much good either. Terrorists generally dont keep to their end of the bargain in any event.
     

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