Runriot said:
So you havent been taking care of your system then? Just reinforces my point. Thank you
Please, sir, I own a company that does this for a living. Defrag hasn't been an important part of system stability since Windows 2000 came out. Defrag in fact never impacts system stability, merely PERFORMANCE, and with today's drive sizes and OS's, it simply is a waste of time to recommend it. In fact, I bet most people running XP right now were they to go to the Disk Defragmenter would be told they do NOT need to defrag the drive.
What broad statements are you refering to?
Do you read the post before hitting send?
"I'm convinced that the "vocal minority" here, most of which claim to be industry QA experts, or long time computer techs dont run a clean windows system."
How in the hell WOULD YOU KNOW, CLOWN? You know, I need a clown smiley. Dopey look, point hat. Someone get to work on it for me...
Maintaining a clean system? That is every endusers chore, onerous as it may be. As for making these statments, what "possessed" me to do so was the incessant whining about the game here on the boards.
Perhaps the incessant whining is due to the incessant CRASHING and LAGGING and GRAPHIC CORRUPTING that occurs during Civ4 for a GREAT many people? This program AIN'T RIGHT. PERIOD. And I won't suffer fools who have no idea about my system or anyone else's to come out and say I don't run a clean Windows system, when you HAVEN'T A CLUE, KNUCKLEHEAD.
First of all, nice name calling, glad you resisted the urge to flame and debate in a civilized maner.
I resist none if it - I will not suffer fools.
Secondly, ATI troubles are related to the manufacture of the card itself, and how it handles large files. Did ATI release this info to anyone? No one seems to have heard of it before now, so it is logical that the devs hadnt either. Also, those problems were limited to a small percentage of ATI chipsets.
ATI owners, have you had to unpak files for any other game? Seems to me most ATI owners report, much as I as an Nvidia owner do, no problems with ANY OTHER FREAKING GAME.
Do you spin plates? I love clowns that spin plates...
So, are there varieties of systems running the game without harddrives and virtual memory? Are you daft? Just about every computer since the 486 has had HDs and swapfiles for virtual memory, so there most certainly can be a "common thread" in these diverse "variety of systems."
This paragraph has no cohesive point. Try again.
As for the GAME giving these systems problems, how do YOU explain people with the same hardware configs having wildly differing performance in the game?
SAME hardware configs? Please, you are looking at Video card and CPU to determine the SAME config? PLEASE! The fact is there are THOUSANDS of various possible hardware configs, having the same video card and CPU as me does NOT mean we have the "same config". I in fact have a config that is in the less than 1% range - tell me, clown, where is the person running the MSI 6600GT with the K7D motherboard with Dual Barton's at 2200Mhz on the 1.06 BIOS using the 81.85 Detonator drivers with the WHQL certified Audigy 2 drivers? Now here's the next question, does my system have the AMD IRQ masking bug caused by a fault in the northbridge? Inquiring minds want to know, chump.
What you SHOULD be asking is - what other programs give you difficulty? And the answer is almost invariably NONE. Nada. Not a one. As I told another person, I hadn't even SEEN my BIOS screen in over a month. Now with Civ4, I get to see it all the time...
Well, seeing as how I make my money doing remote diagnostics of computers for Brighthouse Networks (call me 1-877-892-3278 ask for tech 1085)
In one hour today, I'd wager I'll clear more than your day, son. I'm glad the help desk is working out for you.
I can agree that there IS nothing more exhuasting as dealing with incompetent end users who think they understand how to take care of a system.
End users do not possess the techincal knowledge to do such things. This is equivalent to asking everyone who owns their car to do their own tune up. It's stupid. Please stop acting like everyone should do what you do on their home computer.
And yes, it did occur to me that some people may have already trimmed processes down, but what about the rest? Whens the last time you cleaned your registry or booted into safemode to remove ghost hardware? Never would be my guess.
Sigh... do you know what these things are? Probably not. Clean your registry? HAH!
This is the problem with those manning the help desk. They have a LITTLE knowledge - enough to act like they know what they are doing.
Are you telling us that Civ4 isn't running because someone didn't "clean their registry"? Tell us, what is IN the registry that would cause Civ4 to crash? Have you examined the EXTENSIVE use of the registry by Civ4? Yeah, what I thought...
Such ire from someone who, by the tone of your post, have already gone through these steps and kept a clean windows install. Such venom from someone not even mentioned in my initial post at all.
Son, what I've done is listen to clown after clown pontificate that there just MUST be something wrong on ALL of these systems causing Civ4 not to run, without even MENTIONING there JUST MIGHT BE A PROBLEM in the game. No, sir, if you wanted to be constructive, you could have mentioned, back when nobody already had, useless tips like defrag and registry cleaning (good grief). You could have asked more information - have you had problems with other games? Do you run any other Direct X 9 games? Nope... none of that. Just an idiotic exposition on how there just MUST be something wrong with the computers of everyone who runs the game. Hurry! Go defrag your swap file, as if it MATTERED!
Put it this way, you dont what to tweak your system, run it clean? Well you dont have to. No one is holding a gun to your head making you do it. But then if you dont, you would have to take some mesure of the responsibility on yourself. Firaxis and 2k are not responsible for your cluttered, unkempt windows environment.
See, here's the problem. You have no idea about my system. None. So stop diagnosing it, sight unseen.
Also, its quite immature to flame me for my opinion while you have spent days and days on this board shouting to whoever would listen about your opinion of the game.
Do you see the response to my post from Euphoric One? It is quite common when I behead a clown who has trolled in here to pontificate on the source of all of our evils. You know why? Because they are TIRED of being told that the one game they have a problem with isn't the problem, but the system that only HAS a problem with that one game is.
Let me know how senior high works out for you.
Venger