NESLife attempt #3

My metallic idea is a metallic pocket (really tiny) that will hold corrosive acids that melt through rock. It's to win grazing ground against this castle creatures.

Metal would probably be one of the least effective things to hold acid in.

Daft! Blood Is nothing but Packets of Iron rust and DNA! Everything have metalic organs.... they are blood cells!

That's quite a bit of an exaggeration. Out of every hemoglobin molecule, only 4 atoms are iron. That's a very small amount of the total mass; furthermore, the vast majority of blood is plasma, which is mostly water.
 
Well I thought about an acid that only melts rocky things and not metallic things so a metal pocket would have been the only way.

I guess full metal organs are kind of crazy on our planet, but I wouldn't be surprised seeing them on very hot planets where metals become more flexible and gooey.
 
I guess full metal organs are kind of crazy on our planet, but I wouldn't be surprised seeing them on very hot planets where metals become more flexible and gooey.

Um... Very hot planets being planets where water based life wouldn't have a chance of existing? :mischief:
 
Why? Water would just be gaseous and not liquid... and if life are known for something, is being ANYWHERE water is in ANY of it's forms.
 
Why? Water would just be gaseous and not liquid... and if life are known for something, is being ANYWHERE water is in ANY of it's forms.

Look, if you had metal being soft and flexible, you'd be talking in the thousands of degrees. That's probably enough to ignite carbon based life forms.

And we haven't found life in comets, on Mars' polar ice caps, in several atmospheres, so no, life does not exist wherever water exists. Life as we know it typically only exists in liquid water, as liquid water is extraordinarily different from gaseous or solid.
 
One could come up with a simpler version of our own gastric acids. If I remember anything from our biology classes, I think the reason our own stomachs can handle it is because of a layer of foam (of lower acidity?) coating inside, shielding the fleshy walls from the potent digestive fluids. Am I right, anyone?
 
Yes you are silver.

And NK, Several atmospheres=pressure right? Life were found in the bottom of the ocean.
Ice caps? Life are abounded in earth ice caps, and I mean inside them living inside ice, not even a sleep.

Maybe not outside the earth yet, but the earth does have a lot of types of places. And earth life did survive in space.
 
And NK, Several atmospheres=pressure right?

No. I mean several planets' atmospheres.

Life were found in the bottom of the ocean.
Ice caps? Life are abounded in earth ice caps, and I mean inside them living inside ice, not even a sleep.

I'm aware of all this. However, we have yet to find creatures living inside molten metal, and almost certainly never will, so your hypothetical is still silly.

One could come up with a simpler version of our own gastric acids. If I remember anything from our biology classes, I think the reason our own stomachs can handle it is because of a layer of foam (of lower acidity?) coating inside, shielding the fleshy walls from the potent digestive fluids. Am I right, anyone?

Yes, but we don't have a metal pouch.
 
And most other molecular chemistries would probably break down at that temperature, anyway. Point?
 
Admittedly, it might be possible if you had a silicon-based lifeform, but silicon is viewed as much less flexible and stable than carbon, since it can't form double and triple bonds even though silicon has four valence electrons.

Now, a hybridized carbon-silicon lifeform might show some promise for metallic or pseudometallic body structures, but they wouldn't exist at high temperatures. In addition, you need to develop an entirely different metabolism, including silicon-based organic compounds.

Another issue is water, in which silicon dioxide dissolves. You'd need a different universal solvent, which would be very difficult to find. So it's reasonable to conclude that metallic or pseudo-metallic structures on the organ level are impossible, at least with our current knowledge of organic chemistry. Here in NESlife, it's assumed that organisms follow the carbon cycle for their metabolic reactions.
 
And so? You can't have a metabolism off of diamonds.
Why not? Are you god to say thats impossible? Under the right condition diamonds can be as flexible as flesh.

But yeah as I said, in this NES I can't do that, I don't have the conditions.
 
Why not? Are you god to say thats impossible? Under the right condition diamonds can be as flexible as flesh.

But yeah as I said, in this NES I can't do that, I don't have the conditions.

You can't use god as not everyone believes in god. :p
 
Why not? Are you god to say thats impossible? Under the right condition diamonds can be as flexible as flesh.

Because what, exactly, are you going to do with them to break them down and make them into energy? It makes no sense. It's like saying you can have an ecosystem based on quartz.
 
You can't use god as not everyone believes in god. :p
I don't believe in it either. I was calling him god, not god god...

And NK, until the day science will discover all possible chemical reactions and materials and prove me wrong I will still believe that life made of Diamonds are possible in the right condition, maybe not a very high chance, but plausible. I won't even hope to see them, just believe they can be.
 
That's roughly equivalent to believing that there is a lump of cheese under the ice on Europa, and believing that until someone disproves it.
 
Gentlemen please, i would like this thread to be a happy place :)

It seems that a metal organ for holding acid might not be realistic (not that any of this NES is realistic exactly), but i dont have a problem with species having very strong acid abilities, and we can assume they have some way of storing it and protecting their other organs from it.

Squid1111 said:
I removed eye because it was a weakly developed sense that required a lot of energy

Well, i dont see eyesight using up much energy really - sorry if i gave that impression somewhere. I imagine the hardest part its growing the eyes/eyeball in the first place, but thats not too difficult if it is small and primitive. Anyway, it would streamline things to remove it, and i think your species could survive without it.

@all, i am going away tommorrow, and will be sans-PC until monday (or possibly late sunday). So im afraid there will be another delay until the next update.
 
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