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[R&F] Netherlands First Look

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by bite, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. CivLuvah

    CivLuvah Emperor

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    By the way, isn't it that the Dutch "g" is pronounced like the hard "ch" in German?
     
  2. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

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    Let's not do this in the Netherlands thread. Start a new thread and we will spitball some things.
     
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  3. Kimiimaro

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    As I said, the Kingdom of Bohemia is a good choice for a Civ with a lion.

    Or maybe the Republic of Venice.

    However, let's get back to the topic of the thread.
     
  4. rhaak

    rhaak Chieftain

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    Germans can't pronounce the dutch "sch" :)
     
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  5. WillowBrook

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    Not in this thread, please :D
     
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  6. marius_kaparius

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    Where though? I searched through the design your own civ sticky thread and was rather shocked to not find a suggestion for Georgia. I would say that is the place for it to go, but maybe the question should rather be why has there not been a suggestion to date?
     
  7. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

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    Probably Ideas and Suggestions.
     
  8. Leyrann

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    You can't hold the German "ch", can you? You can hold the Dutch "g".

    This video for example shows how it sounds.
     
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  9. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    I had trouble pronouncing Willem van Oranje's lines in Civ5. :D I also had difficulty with Harald Bluetooth, and Gustavus Adolphus' lines. My knowledge of English can't help me pronounce other Germanic languages. English is the weird child of the Germanic family, one that tries so hard to be Latin.
     
  10. marius_kaparius

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    Actually, that was the 'Empire Idea' of the first empire, that of Cyrus the Great of Persia: locals kept all their own culture, paid their taxes, Persians ran the military. Romans did much the same thing, but also imposed Roman Law, Language, and Governance and eventually, culture, on most of their Imperial subjects. In the more modern era, both the British Empire and the Soviet 'Empire' imposed their own culture, art, 'religion' (counting Communism as a religion, of which it had many of the attributes), and even incorporated the subjects' military (Gurkhas, Sikhs, Scots, Georgians, Armenians, Mongols among others between the two). The Soviets, especially, moved populations around wholesale - which is one of the reasons for the current contretemps in the Crimea and Ukraine, neither of which have the same ethnic populations they had either before or after the Great Patriotic War (1941-45) or before the October Revolution...
     
  12. Sporally

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    What do you mean by commercial hub adjacency bonus? I don't think this is true.

    Where do you see this? Been watching the video again just for this purpose, but didn't spot it.
     
  13. Josephias

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    Because they are trying new non-standards symbols for some civs? Spain got the bull (cheesy choice), Arabia added the palm tree to the crescent, Aztecs are now Civ4's Maya, or India switched the dharmachacra for a lotus flower.

    Nice fact, the horn is actually the Orange family symbol. (Lion is for Nassau). Also, using the lion and keeping the civ color orange, forces it to be blue on orange, instead of orange on blue, which is the actual symbol. And just a rampant lion is hardly a disctintive symbol, as many other civs could also claim it (just from the ones in game, Norway and Spain come to mind, in example).
     
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    It Dutch "g" does sound softer than the German hard "ch". But it still sounds like one is clearing his or her throat.
     
  15. Archon_Wing

    Archon_Wing Vote for me or die

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    More adjacency next to a river? Meh.

    But those coastal UU and bonuses seem interesting.
     
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    He means the +2 river adjacency bonus.

    That's basically what it is. Except we made the sound part of our language.
     
  17. DWilson

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    On Facebook, Civ official page said 3 flat land tiles are required for polders. Have we seen anything contrary to the flat part?
     
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  18. Ravellion

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    I would like to say as a linguist and a Dutchman that it was remarkably well pronounced for someone who has likely never spoken a word of Dutch before. "Provinciën" especially shows that some research went into it: Dutch is unique in marking a syllable separation this way (with a "trema"), and that's how she pronounced it.
     
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  19. CivLuvah

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    It's true actually. The Dutch word for Belgium (België) has three syllables compared to when the "e" doesn't have an umlaut.
     
  20. GoodSarmatian

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    We can. We all can. It may take a few weeks preparation...

    Force a German twelve year old to drink a few beers and inhale random plant matter and you're set.
    Dutch is basically German spoken by a drunk child with a sore throat.
     

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