Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Eagle Pursuit, Dec 9, 2017.
Weird. I'm certain I was taught that...
I hope otherwise
You are both correct.
I just have to say: YAAAAY! Called it! Even called Wilhelmina: https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...ns-were-announced.619924/page-7#post-14899509
I'm going to have so much fun building polders in game, which I hate to traverse in real life cause they are windy, boring and death traps traffic-wise! whohoo!
I recently moved from the relative safety of Tilburg (20m above sea level) to the deathtrap-island called Dordrecht (1m below) For the first time in my life, I actually care about the strength of the dykes! :O
I'm so happy. Having dutch origins (my oma was dutch), I'm always happy to see this civ in the game.
Look at them! Theu're so cute! When I saw the abdication of Beatrix to Willem-Alexander, they looked so beautiful and cute everyone... And Wilhelmina is beautifully designed, I think. Really in the idea of the Netherlands, a strong, fierce country which doesn't take itself seriously.
But, I must say: the trailer is, by now, pretty authentic. We saw the crawn of Sylla, and we saw in it some dutch resistants. And we have Seondeok and Wilhelmina. So, my advise is: the trailer of R&F is clearly precise and a strong source of information.
And, also : some people said that it would be unlikely to see Netherlands and Portugal in the same expansion, because it's to maritime/merchant civ. But, as we see it, Netherlands (despite having a CUA that we know nothing) seem (to me) a lot less merchant that we thought, with abilities more about dark ages/loyalty.
So it became more relevant to suppose that Portugal would be in it (and also because they were in the trailer...)
I don't that's necessarily the case. It appears that Wilhelmina is going to be tied to dark ages/loyalty, but it could be possible the civilization itself is more maritime based with explorer units/abilities. So I would not count out that merchant Netherlands is still a thing.
It seems like the governor of New Amsterdam gave it up fairly easily in 1664 but that's just my impression. The citizens probably didn't care who ruled them across the sea.
Yes, I know, but what I felt in the threads was that people usually imagine Dutch as a mercantile and maritime civ. For me, the Netherlands were much more mercantile than maritime : they, basically, invent anonymous companies, economic crisis, fair trade and so one. I know they were maritime, but less, in my opinion, than mercantile.
On the other hand, Portugal in the opposite: much more maritime (and explorers) than mercantile.
So, for me, we will see the Portugal with some maritime ability (plus another we do not know) and Netherlands with loyalty and gold ability.
I'd love to see the Portugese, but suspect they'll be held back for another expansion...
Might sound op, but who cares:
LUA: Radio Oranje: Can initiate a special project in cities that boosts loyalty . Increased yield during war
UA: Dutch East India: The first copy of a new luxury worked by Dutch cities counts as 2. +1 after banking. Sea units can move on coastal tiles (canals)
UU: Fluyt: Replaces the privateer, weaker but with 1 extra movement. Each fluyt stationed in a city state territory increases gold from TR to said CS by 3 (multiple fluyts in one city dont stack)
The canal thing is just for funsies
Give me a moment to enjoy looking down on you.
Likewise. For a time period that theoretically contains 2-3 of the game's major eras, I've always found it a little disappointing that the 20th century is so scant leader-wise.
Obviously I'd prefer that they not go overboard in this regard too -- I don't play the game as a WWII simulator, either, and the focus should definitely remain on older history -- but I'd actually consider having a few leaders from that time period here and there a breath of fresh air. When they feel fitting, at least.
The teaser for tomorrow is clearly for the Netherlands, so no surprises.
The teaser is out. I dont think it needs much guesswork.
Dutch hints are up:
Quick! Act surprised!
Does Gandhi count as a modern leader?Anyway it's a nice change, and I don't know what other World War II leaders we would get anyway. I don't expect Portugal to get a modern leader though and Churchill might be out of the question.
My guess is Portugal!
In short words, all we need is a balance
Basically Civfanatics be like :
How about this for a dutch UA:
Gains +1 available trade routes for every 10 trade post established in foreign cities.
Trade posts are more or less garbage at the moment, having a civ that can use them well would be a nice change. And it is pretty much a perfect thematic fit IMO
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